The other point from the panel discussion - which I hadn't otherwise picked up - was the absolute rubbishing of free running daycare. It made me very, very glad that after seeing various free running daycare options around London I had decided never to send Charlie to these. There is a real backlash against this form of daycare - with almost universal consensus that dogs suffer emotionally, physically and it does no good whatsoever for their training. A lady then spoke up from the floor saying she ran a daycare and had the dogs well managed with "private stations" for each dog and various other techniques (which I didn't recognise) and spoke at length about well run daycares. Kathy Sado said that these types of daycare in the US are now known as "Dog activity programmes" and similar, and the term "daycare" in the US (to mean free running daycare) is now completely discredited as an appropriate place to send your dog. I don't use any kind of free running day care for Charlie, and have no direct experience of any of this - just repeating the discussion.