Thinking of getting a puppy?

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  1. pippa@labforumHQ

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    Thinking of getting a Labrador puppy?

    Planning for a puppy is such an exciting time. There are some great ways to help ensure that your puppy has the best start in life, even before you bring you puppy home!

    There are also some important checks to carry out when it's time to choose your new best friend

    Some of the most common problems experienced by new forum members are puppies with health problems, or that are too young to have been sold. Those still looking for a puppy often want tips on choosing the right one. And sometimes members that are struggling with two puppies at once.

    Some key points to remember are:
    • Pedigree papers are not evidence of health.
    • Good puppies come from good breeders
    • Puppies are not ready to leave Mum until 8 weeks of age
    • Good breeder do not sell puppies in pairs

    Check health certificates, not pedigree papers

    Many people think pedigree papers offer some kind of guarantee of health. They do not. We have many forum members whose purebred pedigree dogs have inherited diseases. Hip and elbow dysplasia, and PRA blindness are both diseases for which there are tests. Good breeders have theses tests carried out on their dogs. But in many parts of the world they are in no way obligatory.

    With hips and elbows these tests won't guarantee you a disease free puppy, but they reduce the risk. With PRA blindness DNA OPTIGEN tests (not the eye exam) can identify dogs that are able to pass on the disease before they are mated, eliminating the risk of certain types of PRA entirely. The evidence you need is contained in the certificates issued when these tests are carried out. Those certificate are entirely separate from the pedigree papers registering your dog with your kennel club. Don't buy a puppy without seeing the certificates for BOTH parents

    Good puppies come from good breeders

    People often worry about choosing the right puppy and want tips on how to do so. And it is very difficult for a first time buyer to know what to look for in a litter of puppies. Fortunately, in most cases if you have found a good breeder all the puppies will be healthy and well cared for.

    Put your maximum effort into choosing that good breeder (see the step-by-step guide below) and if necessary let the puppy choose you!

    Puppies should be 8 weeks old before you collect them

    Inexperienced breeders sometimes let puppies go earlier because puppies are really hard work! Unscrupulous breeders sometimes let puppies go early because they want to bank your cash and avoid any further expenditure. Most Kennel Club, veterinarians and animal welfare organisations recommend 8 weeks as being the minimum age to take a puppy away from their first home

    Good breeders don't sell puppies in pairs

    It is rare for a good breeder to let two puppies go together. Occasionally an experienced trainer will take on two puppies at once but they will be trained, exercised and fed separately. While it might seem that two puppies will keep each other company, there are often problems for their owners. for a number of very good reasons. Inexperienced breeders will sell two puppies together to save having to find two homes. Or because they are worried about being left with unsold puppies. Unscrupulous breeder will sell two puppies together to bank your cash.

    Do check out the resources on this page of the main website for lots more tips and information. And you'll find a step-by-step guide to finding and choosing a puppy on The Happy Puppy Site

    Do have a read through the articles listed there, there is information on finding a good breeder, and spotting the bad ones. Information on relevant health checks and much more.

    A sick dog will break your heart (and your wallet) it pays to buy the best.

    Remember, all puppies are gorgeous, utterly adorable and irresistible. And Labradors are the most numerous breed in many parts of the world. It is a buyers market. It is really worth doing your detective work before you hold one in your arms. :D
     
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  2. Stefan

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    Re: Thinking of getting a puppy?

    Hallo

    We have a 10 month old female lab that suffers from seperation anxiety and gets over excited when seeing or are around other dogs. We are taking her to obedience training, but she gets very distracted by the other dogs.

    We are now considering getting a new puppy (also a lab) as a companion, but are not sure if when choosing a new puppy if we should pick a high energy or meduim energy puppy seeing our puppy is a very high energy puppy and should we pick a female or male. Please advise.
     
  3. MadMudMob

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  4. JohnL

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    Hi Pippa,
    I finally got onto the forum after finding my login details in the spam ;)

    It's a pretty difficult journey selecting the right Puppy so far. I have had to pause my research for the mo' because I'm waiting for my finances to be finalised but though I have read your advice and am determined to ask all the right questions and be as cold as ice I found that every advert I was reading that seemed to fit the bill of my requirements got my pulse racing and I got a certain anxiety to get a pup quickly in case 'they are all gone' when I finally am able to contact breeders. I even phoned a breeder and was tempted to take one of her pups earlier than I could really manage because it met my fox-red desires and the mother in the photo looked so beautiful! I managed to resist the temptation in the end but only because the mother hadn't been hip-scored and your articles had covered that. It's a minefield though, particularly if you are as keen as I am to get your hands on a puppy. So thanks for this site etc. because it's a gem.
     
  5. pippa@labforumHQ

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    Welcome to the forum John :)
     
  6. Rosie

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    Re: Thinking of getting a puppy?

    Hi John

    If you are looking for a breeder, thought I'd share our discovery....

    The Kennel Club website lists lots and lots of breeders, but also have a look at the ChampDogs website (champdogs.co.uk). They have a list of available litters, and they also have stricter criteria for the breeder that they accept as members (see their 'terms and conditions' page - for example they don't accept breeders who breed from bitches under 24 months old). We were directed to their website by a local breeder, and found our beautiful boy as a result :)

    There are some useful info pages there too, like a puppy buyers guide.

    Just to keep your appetite thoroughly whetted!!!!! ;D
     
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    You are kind Rosie :)

    I'm straining at the bit waiting on a cheque before I renew my puppy search. Then I'll be straight to Champdogs!! :D
     
  8. Boogie

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    We found Tatze through champdogs.co.uk too :)

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    He's a beaut! :D
     
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    Just curious about the process in the UK.

    In the US, it is common to place a deposit on pups even before they are born. Here for Labs there is a lot more emphasis on the hunting, hunting tial and field trial accomplishments than the benched shows. For many breeds they emphasize the show accomplishments, but not so much for Gun Dogs, especially Labs. None of the lines we have bought dogs from even mentioned shows. They do show all of the medical clearances for the parents, and that is considered important.
     
  11. JulieT

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    In the UK there are specialist gundog breeders, specialist show dog breeders, and then pet breeders. Most people buying what they call a 'show line' dog or a 'working line' dog are really just buying pets, even if the breeder dabbles in gundog work or the show ring.

    If you were seeking a dog with very particular characteristics, from a well known trialing or show kennel, then you would have to put down a deposit before a puppy was born, or get lucky (everyone has to find homes for pups, regardless) - and you might even struggle to get on a waiting list. Lots of pet dog breeders - those with a good track record, great health results from the parents etc. also have waiting lists for puppies, but there is plenty of availability of well bred pets and it's not difficult to find good puppies.
     
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    If you are buying a working line dog, in the US called a field line dog, then the breeder won't mention show success. This is because it is possible to work a show line dog, but not successfully show a working line dog. The conformation of working line dogs is, these days, too far away from the breed standard for many (or any) to have success in the show ring.
     
  13. MaccieD

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    In France I paid a deposit nine months before Juno was born. The main reason for the deposit was we had just missed out on a girl from the litter just born and we wanted a girl, not a boy - the colour was of no importance. The deposit secured our place on the waiting list so we had first choice of the girls born in the next litter. Most breeders in France, well all those I researched, will take reservations on a litter once a pregnancy is confirmed. The breeders are very open with the results of x-rays, eye tests etc. together with successes both in the field and the show ring. What you don't seem to have is dogs being advertised as "field" or "show" lines, I think the French just expect to be able to train a Labrador puppy to work whilst still meeting all the conformation requirements of the breed.
     
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    I believe that's pretty common here in Australia too as it secures your place on the waiting list. Our breeder (breeds pet dogs only) refused to take deposits as her opinion was, if you wanted to pull out, she didn't want you to take one of her puppies just because you'd paid a non-refundable deposit.
     
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    Hi
    I bought my first lab bitch yesterday. I have vaccination paperwork, & she's microchipped to me.
    She's 9 weeks old and so far has come when she's been called, has had hardly any accidents in the house and is very friendly and quite forward
    She's booked in at my vets on Saturday for a check up and registering.
    I bought her purina beta puppy kibble for her to try
    I have had a jrt for 15 1/2 years until he went over the rainbow bridge in feb, so although I am new to labs, I am not new to dogs, but I want to do things better this time
     
  16. Alisa Emily

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    Hii, I'm planing to get a Husky puppy or Labrador one. Which age should I get one ( I was thinking To get a 4 weeks to 6 max one) what do you think.
     
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    Puppies should not leave their mothers that early. The forum policy is that we cannot support queries on underage puppies.
     
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    Puppies should not leave their mum/littermates before a MINIMUM of 7 weeks, preferably 8 weeks.
    The forum does not support removing puppies under 8 weeks.

    This is our official line @Alisa Emily
    Moderator Note: Sadly, in some parts of the world there is a tragic trade in tiny puppies barely able to walk. On the Labrador site we frequently get comments from people who have purchased puppies as young as 21 days old. Their owners will usually need help from a qualified veterinary professional if the puppy is to survive and thrive.

    Our forum policy is to encourage people to wait until their puppy is eight weeks old before collecting it from the breeder. To make sure we are not encouraging the trade in underage puppies, nor depriving these puppies of essential veterinary attention, we have the following rule.

    If a forum member’s puppy has been removed from the breeder/ mother before the age of seven weeks, that member must wait until their puppy is seven weeks old before posting about him or her on the forum

    We recommend that anyone with a puppy under this age contacts their vet without delay for instructions on feeding, general care, and medical treatment. We understand that members want to help these puppies, but the forum is not the right place to be distributing specialist advice of this nature.
     
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    I won't be getting my new Pupster until October, but I'm a seriously puppy broody NOW!

    So I'm reading everything puppy related!

    Any great recommendations?


    :)
     
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  20. Antoine

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    hey guys
    Im thinking about getting a dog and would really love it to be a lab but i have a few questions about if my lifestyle is compatible. Im 15 and my parents are divorced so it might have to change houses every week or so but i dont have any siblings so theres no toddlers to worry about knocking over. I live in a medium size house with a backyard that is not massive but has more than enough room to walk around in. But my main concern is leaving it home alone. I would get the dog during my summer break which is about 6 weeks long, so i would have some time where i could be home most of the day so it could get adjusted. But during the school year Im out the door at 8 and don't return till 4 and my parents are the same. After i get home and can take it for a hour or longer walk and give it as much love and attention till i have to leave the following morning, so my main question is can the dog be home for 6 to 8 hrs most week days having only the garden and the house to roam around in and with only a cat to keep them company providing that when i get home the dog can get as much exercise and love as it needs. I also plan to consult some family friends who are vets and have been for many years. But as some lab owners i just wanted to ask your opinion before "taking the plunge"
     

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