Not Neutering

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  1. Harley Quinn

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    There is another entire male in the class and he is very well-behaved regarding Harley, they interact like two young dogs.
    I didn't realise that neutered males will keep mounting dogs too. I have decided if this dog is in the next class I am going to skip and wait till the next cycle of classes.
     
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  2. SwampDonkey

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    I think it's more a poor management and inconsiderate owner than anything else.l don't let my boys behave like that whether they are neutered or entire. I sorry you and harley have had to put up with that.
     
  3. Karen

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    Absolutely agree. I certainly wouldn't allow an entire male, or a neutered male, to mount other dogs, male or female. It is simply bad manners, showing an owner who doesn't have proper consideration for other people and their dogs.
     
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    Have you talked to the instructor about this? They really should be the one to put a stop to this.
     
  5. Harley Quinn

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    Thanks Swampdonkey, the course is a 4 week course so the first time I wrote it off because we were all new to class and we didn't know this owner or dog. But it has not only continued but become worse as the course has continued. I strongly suggested a similar harness as I have on Harls to the owner as she has the dog on a flat collar only and he just pulls her like a skier behind him. I have also clearly said I don't like him mounting Harley. Harley tries to get away and I have ended up twisted in the leads more than once. I stay far away from this owner and dog but sometimes we need to fetch equipment, or as I said, arrive or leave through the same gate.
    Today is the last class so I will see what class we do from here and if this dog is going to be there I will mention it. I have also been the person with the distracting, bouncing lab so I wanted to give the owner a fair chance to work on her behaviour and her dogs behaviour, he isn't being malicious, he is just being allowed to do as he wishes. He is a very big GSD so much taller than Harley. I am also nervous that she snaps at him and it sparks a confrontation - he has never shown any aggressive behaviour, he is a sweet dog - just really big, young and not well trained.

    Thanks for the support, as always. Today is the last class.

    I apologise for hijacking the thread OP.
     
  6. Beanwood

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    Oh dear @Harley Quinn how frustrating for you! I would have be having a discussion with the trainer, regarding ensuring some space between you and the young GSD, can't be good for him either. You and your dog need to feel safe and relaxed in your dog training classes, it is a given really, irrespective of what type of classes they are.

    Benson is entire, and he NEVER humps other dogs, male or female, well apart from once exception and that was a spaniel in season, now that was exciting!! :eek: I know of quite a few entire dogs like Benson, so he isn't the exception.
    Casper on the other hand is neutered, and when over his threshold (which is fairly frequently..) he will hump. He has poor impulse control. Bramble does enjoy winding him up, and she knows which buttons to press, so I am forever trying to calm him down! So I am thinking that the young GSD is simply over his threshold, maybe these aren't the most suitable classes for him, and he needs more structure.
    I do hope you join in with another series of classes with Harley, she obviously enjoys them so much! :)
     
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  7. Boogie

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    Zaba is an entire male and four years old. He's a happy-go-lucky boy and no trouble at all. He never humps.

    My two girls hump each other :rolleyes:

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  8. lucky_dog

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    I agree that it's probably not related to being uncastrated, but probably due to overexcitement or stress - this is usually why Lucky humps other dogs.

    I would definitely talk to the trainer about it. If you're in a group class and the dogs are all on the lead, then there's no excuse at all for the other dog being that close to you, and even getting the chance to mount Harley!
     
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    @Harley Quinn , hijack or no hijack, I agree with other posters that it's not ok for another dog owner to cause you such concern and impair your enjoyment of the class. I hope you can find some resolution. I'm sure when Harley was the bouncy disruptive one ( really :D) you did your best to minimise the effect on others.

    I also agree that it's more a training issue than neutering v entire.
     
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  10. alschwahn

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    No need to apologize! I totally understand that. It is incredibly hard to watch another adult, who you would assume is competent, allow their dogs/children to do things that you have specifically asked them not to do. If Aspen ever acted this way I would be embarrassed, and would definitely honor another owner's wishes! We took Aspen to a summer concert by the river last week and a little girl kept tackling Aspen! Aspen was uncomfortable so I said goodbye to her and she followed us and kept jumping and grabbing at him! The parents looked on and said nothing. It actually took the brother, who was maybe only 6, to come over and tell her to stop "wrestling the puppy" and only then did she stop. People these days! :facepalm:
     
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