Never had a girl like this before! Help required re jumping up

Truly, I've never had a dog who desires interaction with people the way Cass does!

She's 18 months now and I've struggled with this from day 1, literally. With family members and people who visit frequently it is no longer a problem but random visitors and people we meet on walks it still is, the worrying part is that she insists on mouthing sleeves and hands.

I think it largely has roots in my socialisation during which I think she had far to much attention, looking back. Thinking about it even when I was carrying her, which didn't last long, she was 8.5kg at 8 weeks, she would scrabble out my arms and try to get to people.

She happily sits, but the minute people go to touch her up come the feet and she launches into them, or kangaroo jumps. It's that bit I need to address, keeping feet on the ground.









People do one of three things ;

 

Same here!

When Tatze was little I let her say hello to everyone we met, not realising it was seeing different people that mattered, not being fussed by them. She’s four now and I lure her past folks out and about as I still can’t trust her not to jump up.

For random visitors I have a very short loop of a lead which stays on her collar so that I can easily get hold of it if she starts. It’s the folk who love dogs she’s worst with.

I was different with the pups and not one has been a jumper-upper or mouther with people we meet or in the house. Keir, at 20 weeks is better than Tatze!

 

Whoops, posted to soon.

They say oh it doesn't matter and carry on fussing her -- she's 28kgs, of course it matters.

They start trying to fight her off (understandable), or they insist on getting "firm" with her to show me how to do it, instead of listening to my requests to get her to sit. Both of which make her think this is a great game.

I know it's not other people responsibility to train my dog but I end up so frustrated because I don't want her to do this, I hate it when people allow their dogs to do it to me.
I've recently started doing more with the clicker and hope to use it to help with this.

 

I simply don’t let her interact and quickly walk past, luring Tatze by. In the house - my rules rule lol

 

This kind of thing drives me crazy, when people start trying to train Jess in front of me. It must be hard to try and stop a friendly lab from jumping up. How are you using the clicker? Jess doesn't jump up really when she's off-lead and when she's on-lead I just stand on the lead, which isn't very graceful but does work.

 

Yes, I do this when I can. In the house lately I've been giving her a kong, which means she has something to show off and something to do, my the time she's finished it some one being here is no big deal.

 

I started again with the clicker to do the October challenge, and while she's been in season clicker heel in the garden. It's shown me how quickly she can learn. And now I have it attached to my treat bag for these instances, only applied it once yesterday. Met my neighbour who's done working trials and police dog stuff, he's quite knowledgable and helpful but errs towards the dominance side of things. It's difficult to time it right with jumping up. People insist on looking at her and giving some sort of verabal advice, she's then like a volcano waiting to erupt.
I stand on lead if necessary, sometimes she doesn't jump up off lead.

 

Bramble is a very friendly dog, she adores being fussed. I don't allow anyone though, to come up to her on a walk and fuss her. She does oddly also have a wariness about her.
I am happy for them to say a very brief hello in some circumstances, then I add a happy "Say Goodbye Bramble!" with a treat on her nose and avoiding eye contact with the person, on we trot

 

That's a good idea.

This is the weird thing Cassie doesn't really, so I don't get why she does it!

 

You might well be describing Molly selina27, same age too and exactly the same behaviour. Even the vets yesterday when we picked her up, mentioned how 'cuddly' she is, wanting to jump up and 'kiss' them

She's as good as gold in most other respects, even improving her attitude to other dogs but as soon as she sees people approaching, particularly if they start to smile and approach her, all sense seems to go out the window and she becomes a whirling dervish of leaping and licking.

One thing I do get fed up with hearing though is 'she is chocolate, what do you expect?'

I'll also be eagerly trying out the helpful replies here. Good luck with Cassie x

 

@Boogie, if Jess wants to interact with a dog she will just plant herself down and refuse to move - she won't be lured by treats as what she really wants is the other dog. What would you suggest doing then?

Jess does this much less than she used to but it was a big problem for us for a long time. I tried lots of things (luring, LAT, sitting and waiting it out, picking her up and moving on) but in truth I think the difference has just been that she's growing up and is less interested in other dogs. Still, I'd be interested to hear how others deal with this!

 

Have you tried ‘middle’ @selina27 with Cassie? If I see people approaching who I guess will want to fuss Red, I will use that. They are less inclined to rush in with their hands to her head when she is poking out between my legs .

 

@FayRose , this is the thing she's good as gold in the vets, people think she's much older. I have worked hard on going there though.

This is it -- people will insist on doing that,--"isn't she lovely, isn't she beautiful" hands on stretched, downhill we go. I just don't get why people do it, it simply doesn't enter my head to approach other dogs like that. Then they start saying" I think she needs to go to classes ........ grrr

At least you can tell folk there is a black lab that is just the same!

 

@Atemas, good idea!

 

Sounds like Vanilla, but slightly less of the mouthing. Last few weeks she seems to have gotten into this habit of jumping up but only on certain people. I think it is a late on set of teenage bravado....
We either do as @Atemas does or do a quick tug game. It is amazing how people will then just carry on walking by but do look at you very strangely playing tug on the pavement or wherever. But hey it is working.
I am sure you will find something similar with Cass and in a short time all forgotten (but something new instead )

 

Alex, the Bodeguero x GSP at the shelter is a big excitement jumper. We took him into town yesterday with a lot of the other dogs for a PR thing and he got over-excited a few times leading to him jumping up repeatedly at me and mouthing my arms.

Where possible, I wait for him to stop and put four paws on the floor, he gets a snappy "yes!" then a piece of cheese. If he just needs managing, I grab his harness and hold him so he can't jump up (he has no collar to attach the lead to stand on). Training consists of me walking a few paces away and treating him if he keeps his feet on the floor when he gets to me. If he doesn't, I turn my back and walk away another few paces. Eventually, build the arousal. In his kennel, I got so I could run to the other end and wave my arms around and he wouldn't jump up. Also slowly increase the duration you expect of the feet on the floor. It's obviously another level of difficulty when we're out and about.

As with everything, I think proactive training is key, so trying to emulate situations where she would present the behaviour. Even if it's a slightly different trigger, such as making yourself exciting by doing umping jacks, the lesson is the same and it will help her learning in her normal trigger environments.

 

Ahh, yes, the "OMG!!! Isn't he beautiful!!!" bunch (said in high pitched ones). Murphy gets a bit more excited but he does not jump on people. Drives me nuts too. The people I really like are the ones who say "May I pet him?" in a very calm voice. I get a lot of that because Murphy wears a front connect harness so I think people believe him to be a service dog. OF COURSE you can pet him!!!

I sometimes wonder if some of the problems really amount to "untraining" rather than training. I have no basis in scientific study for thinking that but it seems possible to me. Scenario:

New puppy.
Oh my gosh! He just learned to jump up on my lap! How cute, here have a treat!

Uh oh, he is now 100lbs, not so cute as those paws land on the shoulders.

 

Ughhhh, this is so true and I can't stand it! It's always someone who says "Oh, don't worry I have a dog" or "it's okay I love dogs!" Obviously they don't know much about dogs if they think that encouraging them to jump by giving them (any) attention is a good idea.

George is also a jumper: he just loves everyone, especially men, and it's getting embarrassing. But as you've said, so hard to practice with strangers (or even friends) when the strangers won't cooperate! It's back to obedience classes for us soon, I suppose. It seems to be the only environment where he can meet new people who also have some dog-training sense.

 

Yes, I'm about to start at a different one, the trainer is aware that this my specific area of need, so although it is quite a distance away I'm really hoping that I can learn to solve this this time.

The more I think about it the last classes really aggravated both this and her behaviour around other dogs on and off leash.

She's making progress in other ways and is such a love at home that I feel I owe it to her!

 

I met a chap this morning, cutting up a felled tree. He greeted Coco enthusiastically, Coco jumped up. I said "OFF" and apologised to the man as Coco stood down. He said, it's OK, I've got 3. I said, yeah, but I'd rather he didn't jump up on strangers. The man then stooped to continue fussing Coco, he respected my wishes. Some people are OK.

Coco is only allowed to jump up if given the cue - patting your chest. Came in handy at school this evening. A new-ish chap with a Labrador pup kept saying "DOWN" as she was jumping all over him. Coco was called upon to demonstrate what "DOWN" means - ie lie down, then Coco had to demonstrate "OFF", so OH had to get him to jump up in the first place. My Coco, the demo dog - sorry, I've gone off on a boastful tangent here.