Sorry to be back to talking toileting again! Izzy has started weeing on our other dogs bed! Why does she do this? I feel like we are going backwards! Shes had a couple of accidents this morning, and yet we had just got back from a walk! I know shes still only 14 weeks, but surely she should be ok by now?
Re: More toileting talk! [quote author=Wendy68 link=topic=9685.msg139906#msg139906 date=1422355742] Sorry to be back to talking toileting again! Izzy has started weeing on our other dogs bed! Why does she do this? I feel like we are going backwards! Shes had a couple of accidents this morning, and yet we had just got back from a walk! I know shes still only 14 weeks, but surely she should be ok by now? [/quote] Hmmm not sure what weeing on others beds is about but Bella is not fully toilet trained, still a few accidents ( kitchen now though not carpet) but my house being upstairs downstairs doesn't help.
Re: More toileting talk! At 14 weeks, she won't be fully toilet trained, so it's not anything to worry about. Puppies in general like to wee on fabric surfaces, which is why it's recommended to remove rugs and carpets where possible when getting a new puppy. We have solid floors throughout, but if the puppies got into the bathroom, they would almost always go on the bath mat if it had been left on the floor! Even at five months, one of mine (culprit unidentified) had a wee on the kitchen floor a couple of days ago, despite them not having done anything of the sort for ages. Also, even now, mine don't always "go" on their walks, especially exciting ones. They get distracted! At 14 weeks, it was a real event if they did fully empty themselves when out. So I always put them out on the terrace immediately we got back to let them have another go. It will come, but give it time.
Re: More toileting talk! I have to agree with Fiona here. Rolo is 6 months old and is 99% toilet trained. If i don't pick up on the signs he needs a wee he can have an accident. Not his fault, my fault. One thing I learned with Rolo is every new surface needs going back to basics with toilet training. They love the feel of different surfaces and piddle on them to show us just how much lol
Re: More toileting talk! My girl has peed on her bed... Twice!! She's now 15 weeks. I immediately washed + sprayed the cover with enzymatic cleaner and fairly soaked the bed pillow part in cleaner. Every time she wandered into her playpen those days looking for her big comfy bed I would lecture her on how her actions have consequences and it's her fault not mine she doesn't have her bed!! Went over her head but I felt better. Mine is 15 weeks and I wouldn't say toilet trained just yet... But I think she is developing a way to ask to go out and can hold it a LOT better (I feel safe letting her wander a little between sleeps if she gets up for 5-10 minutes in between, whereas before I would rush her right out). I think what helped was simply age plus me occasionally giving her CHEESE when she went outside and only then (or in her crate) because she looked very hopeful once outside. I love my darling because she pees loads on her walks, like 3-5 wees on a 15-20 minute walk and lately I've noticed her doing one last wee when she notices we are close to home! That helps a lot I find. Not sure that was helpful in any way but not many people want to hear about how often your puppy pees so wanted to share ;D
Re: More toileting talk! [quote author=snowbunny link=topic=9685.msg139966#msg139966 date=1422379533] At 14 weeks, she won't be fully toilet trained, so it's not anything to worry about. Puppies in general like to wee on fabric surfaces, which is why it's recommended to remove rugs and carpets where possible when getting a new puppy. We have solid floors throughout, but if the puppies got into the bathroom, they would almost always go on the bath mat if it had been left on the floor! Even at five months, one of mine (culprit unidentified) had a wee on the kitchen floor a couple of days ago, despite them not having done anything of the sort for ages. Also, even now, mine don't always "go" on their walks, especially exciting ones. They get distracted! At 14 weeks, it was a real event if they did fully empty themselves when out. So I always put them out on the terrace immediately we got back to let them have another go. It will come, but give it time. [/quote] True as I always put Bella in the garden after walks, she'll usually poo but holds the wee until we get back unless she's desperate
Re: More toileting talk! [quote author=maisiesmomma link=topic=9685.msg139975#msg139975 date=1422382893] My girl has peed on her bed... Twice!! She's now 15 weeks. I immediately washed + sprayed the cover with enzymatic cleaner and fairly soaked the bed pillow part in cleaner. Every time she wandered into her playpen those days looking for her big comfy bed I would lecture her on how her actions have consequences and it's her fault not mine she doesn't have her bed!! Went over her head but I felt better. Mine is 15 weeks and I wouldn't say toilet trained just yet... But I think she is developing a way to ask to go out and can hold it a LOT better (I feel safe letting her wander a little between sleeps if she gets up for 5-10 minutes in between, whereas before I would rush her right out). I think what helped was simply age plus me occasionally giving her CHEESE when she went outside and only then (or in her crate) because she looked very hopeful once outside. I love my darling because she pees loads on her walks, like 3-5 wees on a 15-20 minute walk and lately I've noticed her doing one last wee when she notices we are close to home! That helps a lot I find. Not sure that was helpful in any way but not many people want to hear about how often your puppy pees so wanted to share ;D [/quote] That's a lot of wees in a walk?! Sure she's not got a UTI?? ;D
Re: More toileting talk! [quote author=CDM link=topic=9685.msg139992#msg139992 date=1422385342] That's a lot of wees in a walk?! Sure she's not got a UTI?? ;D [/quote] TBH I am always amazed she has drunk enough to pee that much but I think she just saves it up and pees a quarter of the tank in each go on purpose.
Re: More toileting talk! Thanks for all your input, today has been a bad day as she then proceeded to walk into her crate and wee on her own bed! Shes been very hyper today, misbehaving, teasing my other dog and just been a pain. Probably cos im tired after a had night(for me not her). I seem to be back to taking her out for a wee every half hour, and yet i know she can hold it. On another note, i got a non gulp bowl delivered today and it certainly slowed her down eating her tea.
Re: More toileting talk! [quote author=Wendy68 link=topic=9685.msg140005#msg140005 date=1422388011] Thanks for all your input, today has been a bad day as she then proceeded to walk into her crate and wee on her own bed! Shes been very hyper today, misbehaving, teasing my other dog and just been a pain. Probably cos im tired after a had night(for me not her). I seem to be back to taking her out for a wee every half hour, and yet i know she can hold it. On another note, i got a non gulp bowl delivered today and it certainly slowed her down eating her tea. [/quote] I feel your pain, Wendy! Honestly, some days I wondered what I had let myself in for. But, honestly, you just have to keep repeating the mantra - it will pass. It WILL pass. Today has been one of those days for me, too. It will be a while until I'm completely free of them (as far as pups are concerned) but hey get more and more spaced apart as time goes on, so now when I have one, it's a bit of a shock to the system! Which I hope is some comfort to you Knowing she can hold it and her knowing she should are two different things. We have to learn to be super patient and think - hang on, why should my puppy know it's not OK to wee inside? It's not instinct. Their instinct is to wee whenever they feel the urge, so that's what they do to start off with. They have to learn, to understand over a period of time, that there are places that it's OK and places that it's not. It's our job to realise that it's not easy for our little monsters to work out where is appropriate and have a bit of leniency about it. Plus, a whole load of kitchen roll and cleaning solution to hand Just remember. It will pass. It WILL pass. x
Re: More toileting talk! [quote author=Wendy68 link=topic=9685.msg140005#msg140005 date=1422388011] Thanks for all your input, today has been a bad day as she then proceeded to walk into her crate and wee on her own bed! Shes been very hyper today, misbehaving, teasing my other dog and just been a pain. Probably cos im tired after a had night(for me not her). I seem to be back to taking her out for a wee every half hour, and yet i know she can hold it. On another note, i got a non gulp bowl delivered today and it certainly slowed her down eating her tea. [/quote] Hmmmm wonder why she did a wee in her crate, is that where she always goes? ( as in her den for sleeping etc?) She's not got a uti again as she? They are so unpredictable some times Bella will last 2 hours, other times needs to go every 40-50 mins, after my earlier comment re carpets, I caught her mid wee in the living rm earlier so took her outside where she finished off, then in addition to my usual upbeat good girl comments I started singing and dancing around ....... I'm losing it!! Let's see if that makes any difference Ups and downs with these puppies , hope tom is a better day. I'm trying Bella back in her crate in the kitchen tonight, wish me luck ;D
Re: More toileting talk! Willow went for a wee a couple of times in her crate when she was young. As in, the crate is next to the door to outside. The door was open. She had been taught to go outside. And yet, she walked into her crate and "deliberately" weed on her bed. Except, they don't do these things deliberately, to spite us. She felt the urge, that's where she thought she should go, so that's where she went. She didn't every toilet there at night time (she had a bad tummy one night, but that's different), but I think even the fact the door was open in those early days changed it from her den into just another place that weeing was permissible. It's a long road to them learning what we want and don't, but they do get there in the end
Re: More toileting talk! I don't think she has another uti, just think she's had a lot of water and been quite hyper which always makes her want to go more. Had a bad night again, I couldn't get back to sleep after toilet break at 2am, then I'm having toilet problems with my old lab( I won't go into details), then back awake at 6.30am with mad dog running around like a nutter! Roll on light mornings and nights!
Re: More toileting talk! I'm finding this forum so useful, Mabel is 14 weeks old now and we have hardly had any little puddles this week at all but today we have had 2. I really felt that I have let her down as she is such a good little girl. She has started to make a little squeak when she needs to go out. My utility door is so far away for a little puppy to remember (no kitchen door ) I'll go back a step and watch her like a hawk at certain times. Glad it's normal development.
Re: More toileting talk! Ah welcome to the Forum,sounds like you are cracking the toilet training great! We all have little setbacks,Dex came to me at 5 months pretty much toilet trained ,we still had a couple of accidents and they were ALL my fault :'(
Re: More toileting talk! We had Juno join us at 10 weeks and a few accidents over a couple of weeks but from around 14/15 weeks we have been accident free. I think the key is learning your puppies signal for when they need to go. Juno has never barked or fussed to go out but goes to sit by the door and just looks at us....... In the evening if she needs to go again she goes into the entrance hall and goes to the door then comes and sticks her head around the living room door and looks at us. Don't panic, you will bet there we just forget that at 14 weeks they're still babies and prone to forgetting particularly if something else is more exciting.
