Not 100% lab??

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  1. pup-pup

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    Today the vet said that the black spot on Jubilee's tongue is because she is not 100% lab. Has anyone heard this? Her breeder is highly thought of and has been in the business for 40 years. She owns both parents but they are from different unrelated lines.
     
  2. JulieT

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    Hello there

    That sounds very unlikely to me....I mean that a black spot on a tongue can determine a dog's pedigree! :D

    Anyway, what is "100% Lab" anyway? It's just a record in some book somewhere, it's not like it determines who your dog is - your dog is unique, your dog. Regardless of its breeding. :)
     
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    Rubbish. Poppy has a black spot on her tongue and is 100% pedigree labrador.
     
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    My Lab has a large black patch on his tongue and is 100% pedigree Labrador.
     
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    Black spots on the tongue are not a sign of anything. Lots of dogs, purebred with lengthy pedigrees, have them.

    What I do find really interesting is Chow Chow tongues. I guess everyone knows they have black (really more sort of purplish dark blue) tongues? But their little tongues start out pink and begin turning blue around 12 weeks old. Even more interesting, if they are going to be red Chows their coats start out black and begin to turn red around the same age. It's like their tongues and coats trade colour. :) There is a Chow Chow breeder around the corner from us. I saw his puppies at this age with their blotchy, multi-coloured coats and tongues. And no, cute and cuddly as they were, we didn't get one.
     
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    Kind of odd thing for the vet to say. I thought it was pretty well known that Labradors carrying black (ie black dogs and yellow dogs) can have black pigment on the tongue and/or roof of the mouth etc. It definitely does not mean anything about your dog's breeding.
     
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    Charlie (chocolate) has black pigment in parts of his mouth, including the roof of his mouth. He didn't have them as a tiny puppy, and of course I took him to the vet when they started to appear. Totally normal, said the (Labrador owning) vet...
     
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    Thanks . I was very surprised by his comment and a little disconcerted. I haven't come across anything that supports this idea. The AKC says that black spots on a dog's tongue isn't a sign that the dog isn't purebred. It certainly doesn't change how I feel about the little rascal.
     
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    Maybe it will change how you feel about the vet?
     
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    My vet said it's the dog version of a beauty mark!
     
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    Homer has black markings on his gums and little white spots of fur just above his paw pads. He is pure lab.
     
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    My son's yellow Lab has 2 huge black spots on his tongue and my black Lab has completely black gums, which makes it impossible for my vet to check his capillary reaction and colour. They're both completely normal and both pure bred Labs.

    Your vet is obviously not an expert on Labradors, or if newly qualified just hasn't seen it all yet. :)
     
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    Wonder what the vet was hoping to gain by making that mis-informed comment!
     
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    Rory has very distinctive pigmentation in his mouth, I can spot him when he was tiny in photos of his litter before he came home with me. I wouldn't worry at all some vets speak before they think. A Chow labrador cross was shown in the UK years ago. It got through a lot of showing and the only thing that gave him away was a blue tongue. Sometimes unexpected things can happen but I doubt you pup is any thing but lab.
     
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    Is the breeders dog registered to the American Kennel Club? If im not mistaken, you cant register the parents if they are not pure breed? Did the breeder provide you with the paper work?
     
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    Yes, she has AKC papers. The breeder is very well known and is celebrating her 40th year breeding labs. Many breeders in New England have her dogs in their line. She occasionally shows Jubilee's mother and usually wins her class.
     
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    Two different vets have told us that the black spots on the tongue are the equivalent to a beauty mark or birthmark on a person. It means nothing in regards to being purebred or not...
     
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    Awww.....now Pongo wants one!
     
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    Ella says Pongo doesn't need one :inlove:
     
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    :$ :inlove: :$
     

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