Scolding is the only way left

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  1. Ankita

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    my dog is scared of coming in to another room. She will sit and cry but would not come in or go out. Example if I am in living room and she is in bedroom she will stay in bedroom and whine and would only come out if someone goes near her. I have tried calling with excitment, tried treats. Only way to call her out without going near her is by scolding her. Unfortunetly Raised angry tone works.

    What do I do to change that behaviour.
     
  2. Atemas

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    No need to scold or raise voice - just lure her in with a bit of her food.
     
  3. Ankita

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    Thanks but tried it so many times. She also wants to come but dont know what is stopping her. At the moment i am in bedroom and she is at the door looking at me and getting restless. It breaks my heart to scold her for nothing. So most of the time i go near her.
     
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    If you were scared to do something and someone shouted at you until you did it, how would you feel about that person? If she won't be lured with food, it goes to show how scared she is; if you are a bit anxious about everyday life, you will probably still eat, but if you are really scared, then you'll turn away from even the tastiest of treats.

    No, scolding isn't the way. You need to work out what she is afraid of and address that.
     
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    Totally get it. That is why asking for help if anyone knows what could be the reason and how to tackle it. Vet also cudnt tell.
     
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    Tatze has one door she is scared to come in. When she was a pup she jarred her mouth badly just by the door, she still doesn’t totally trust that door and I have a treat box by it to lure her in. These days it’s usually just a hesitation.

    I would up the value of the treat - cat food in pouches is an excellent one. Scolding will simply make things slowly worse.

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    None of us can know the reason, and nor can your vet (assuming they have ruled out any medical issues). You have to be there to see it to maybe get some idea. It might be something as simple as someone dropped a pan, accidentally stepped on her foot, there was thunder - anything like that can scare a dog enough that they associate a certain place with something scary. You probably didn't even notice. Or it could be something like the flooring - if it's a slippy floor and she slid on it, she may be unwilling to walk on that floor again. You see, there are so many variables, none of us can possibly know.

    The worst things you can do are 1. scold her (make her feel worse) and 2. coerce her (try to force her into doing something she is scared to do). Your best bet is to try to change the negative associations to positive ones. So, if she's standing at the door, toss her lots of treats for that without trying to encourage her to move further. She's scared when she's there, too, but that's the limit of her capabilities. Even if she doesn't eat the food, it will still be helping having it thrown towards her. If she starts to eat it, great. Over time, she will learn that standing in the doorway makes good stuff arrive (again, even if she doesn't eat it) and she'll start to relax.
    If she hesitates at all doorways, then practice at every doorway you go through. Make it a good thing to cross through. If she'll walk through with you, walk back and forth, giving her praise and treats for doing it. If she's happy to cross when you're there, play a bit of ping-pong with her at doorways, where you throw a treat one way, she goes to grab it, then you throw a treat the other way, so she's constantly going from one room to the next. Sometimes just getting a bit of movement can help to break the stickiness at a threshold, so throwing treats into her safe space so she then has to reorient back to you in the "dangerous" space before the next treat is thrown can also help.
     
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    If she will come through the door if you accompany her, then I would do this -as you leave the room call her to come with you and leave together. If she likes ear rubs or other strokes I would also do that as you go through the doorway. If you can give this support while needed it’s likely that she will gradually lose her fear.
     
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    Thanks for your advice. I have tried that too but i will be more persistent for a bit longer now.
     
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    How old is puppy? How long have you had her?
     
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    She is 4.5 years old and had her since 2 months old. I have also noticed that when she wants to jump on our bed (where she is not allowed) she will quietly sneak into our bedroom with no fears of doors whatsoever. :)
     
  12. Johnny Walker

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    Here’s a long shot but have you ever played with her using a one of those red laser penlights.
     
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    No. Are you suggesting we should play with that. And how is it going to work
     
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    I would not use one of the laser pens they can over stimulate over excite and encourage obsessive behaviour. Kate has had serious behaviour issues with her dog Nell bought on by use of a laser pen. Nell is obsessed by lights flicker over surfaces and reflections. It's been very stressful for Nell and Kate had previously warned against the use of one.
     
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    4.5 years old. Is this a new behaviour? Is it only one doorway? Will she go through on leash? Will she go through, on leash or not, for another person? My sister's dog had some similar phobias (stairs, only one door of her car) but he would go those places with another person. It may have helped when we discovered this that the other person (my OH) did not know he had these issues.

    Other ideas: feed her closer and closer to the door, if it's one. I guess rotate if it's many doors. I have heard of electrical current passing through floors and walls and discouraging pets from going there. A dry house and nylon carpet can produce shocks only a pet may feel so checking humidity levels might help.

    Good luck.
     
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    No. NEVER use one. Like I said, it was a long shot, but they can cause odd behaviour.
     
  17. Shamas' mom

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    That's encouraging.

    It's possible that the behavior is a learned one, you say that youve done a lot of work with her, trying to ease her fears and help her. Could this be an attention-seeking behavior? Or a learned fear?

    Shamas is afraid of certain things, but only if certain people are around. If other people are with him he's no longer afraid. I'm trying to capitalise on this, and get him out as much as possible with the people that seem to aleviate his fears. He's becoming more confident as a result. I beieve that we may have at the early stages validated his fears, making him feel like there was something to trly worry about, even as we tried to help him.

    Feeding close to the door is a great idea, as is walking through with her. Do both in a calm manner, so that she realises there's nothing to get excited about. The more calm you are about the thing that scares her, the calmer she'll be in the end
     

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