Confusion about Mating on Right Time.(have Female Lab) help

Discussion in 'Labrador Breeding & Genetics' started by honey148, Jul 25, 2018.

  1. honey148

    honey148 Registered Users

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    Hi,
    Have female lab, periods going on,
    She got mate at 10 and 12th day,
    Both have good histroy.
    The confusion i have right now,
    First of all, both mate was successful and lock was about 10-15 mins,
    The thing which is making me doubtfull that, after 2 mates,
    Next day my dog started humping on my leg, she never did before,
    Does that means 10th and 12 th mate can get unsuccessful?
    Does that means she wont concieve baby because her mood to get mate has just started?
    Tomorrow its gonna be 14 th day,
    What should i do? Mate again?
    Breeder will take money again,
    If you think i should mate her again then i will.
    But whats your opinion?
     
  2. Beanwood

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    The right time to mate varies with each bitch. If her behaviour has changed now then (hopefully) she is not pregnant.

    I say "hopefully" she is not pregnant, as unless you have a different dog now, the one you are using has very bad hips. I do hope I am wrong, and both dogs have full and comprehensive health tests, including hip and elbow scoring.
     
  3. honey148

    honey148 Registered Users

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    No i mean, should she mate again? If her behaviour changed after two matings that means previous mating was on wrong time? I hope you understand what i mean, dont want to waste 6 months. Cant force her stop being follow nature,
    But im not breeding bad hip dog,
    I have another female.
    Btw no science says that babies from bad hips would be also results bad hip,
    I saw many street dogs their hips were like one paw at 180 degree and other 120 degree, and their kids are now 5 years old now. Perfect hip, xray is perfect.
    Im from family of Ayurveda doctor Ayurveda dont agree with these myths, I saw a puppy she took birth without legs and her babies are perfect.
     
  4. Beanwood

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    @honey148, yes I do understand what you mean regarding breeding and behaviour.

    What I have trouble in understanding is why you are in such a hurry to breed from your dog? However, this is not as important as ensuring that both dogs are fully health-tested. The labrador forum does not recommend breeding from dogs that don't fully meet these criteria.

    Here is some information regarding health tests you might find useful:

    https://www.thelabradorsite.com/health-screening-for-labrador-diseases/

    Points to consider when thinking about breeding:

    https://www.thelabradorsite.com/labrador-breeding-should-you-let-your-dog-have-puppies/

    The above statement is incorrect.

    "Canine hip dysplasia (CHD) is the most common inherited polygenic orthopaedic trait in dogs with the phenotype influenced also by environmental factors." (highlighted to emphasise text)

    ref: Ginja MM, Silvestre AM, Gonzalo-Orden JM, Ferreira AJ. Diagnosis, genetic control and preventive management of canine hip dysplasia: a review. Vet J. 2010;184(3269–276.
     
  5. lucy@labforumHQ

    lucy@labforumHQ Administrator Forum Supporter

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    As Beanwood has shown above with her link to a scientific review, there is absolutely evidence of hip dysplasia being inherited. That's why hip tests for potential breeding dogs exist and are advised. It is not a myth, I'm afraid.
     
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  6. Aisling Labs

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    Her humping your leg most likely means nothing.

    What does mean something is whether or not Days 10 and 12 were the correct days for her individual ovulation schedule. It's why many breeders now use progesterone testing to determine the best days.

    As for hips and elbows. Science has not been able to detect the "gene" responsible for bad hips and elbows. Medium and large dogs are genetically disposed to joint issue due to the rapid growth they experience. That being said, breeding two dogs with bad hips is more likely to produce a litter with a majority of the dogs having bad hips.

    But the opposite is true as well - excellent to excellent have produced dysplastic dogs while fair to fair have produced excellent dogs - which can be seen in the OFA database quite clearly when you study such things to help determine whether or not two dogs should be bred together. THIS is why it believed that environment plays an equal if not GREATER part in whether or not a dog is dysplastic.
     

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