Hiya, murphy is coming up 10 months old now and he is now cocking his leg 50% of the time when he is weeing, but when out on walks spends his life marking various things. The thing is he has now twice cocked his leg and weed on something in the house. Both times i havent seen him do it so havent been able to tell him off, just cleaned it up but what im wondering is, is this the start of him possibly doing it a lot in the house and if so should i think about him getting castrated sooner rather than later? Thanks in advance!
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Ooohhhh tough one! Are you planning on castrating him anyway? If it were me(we didn't plan to castrate and haven't so far) I would go back a step in housetraining and confine him when not with him so he only wee's outside. However you deal with it you want to stop it becoming habitual or castrating probably won't make any difference. That was the advice I got when Riley was little and it made sense as to why castration didn't always help with determined humpers etc because their behaviour had become habit and was no longer purely fuelled by testosterone. Good luck!!!
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! I had a 13 month old GSP who had only lived in gundog kennels until I had him, a poor terrified dog. He cocked his leg in the house many times until I had him castrated, never did it again.
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Charlie was castrated at about 6 months by the rescue centre and he never cocks his leg, I was told this is because he was neutered too young and hadn't learned, so not sure it makes a difference :-\ Sorry can't help but someone will don't worry. x
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Thanks everyone. Yes barbara we were intending on getting him castrated at some point, but i really wanted to wait until he is a year old at least so that he will have done all his growing. I feel like otherwise I am interfering with nature, and although castrating obviously isnt natural, i feel that i should at least let him develop and grow how nature intended first! I think i might start by being more vigilant and keeping him in rooms with me rather than letting him wander around wherever he wants when im upstairs etc, and then see what happens. At least then if i see him do it i can say a stern no and he might realise. If not then i might go back to putting him in his crate. Hopefully that will last me a couple of months until he is 1 and then I will get him done. When we bought him, we signed a contract that I think if i remember rightly said that we had to get him castrated. It was something like that anyway. Thanks everyone!
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! [quote author=Fwhitt246 link=topic=4786.msg59387#msg59387 date=1394277559] . When we bought him, we signed a contract that I think if i remember rightly said that we had to get him castrated. It was something like that anyway. Thanks everyone! [/quote] Frankie I've never heard of this?what is it ?why are you made to do it? I'm sorry I can't help you with advice....Dexter hasn't done it and he's my only reference point being our first dog ...hope you can manage ok until you are ready to get him neutered..Dexter was 13 months x
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! We were not made to sign a contract but Jacqui did make us promise NOT to breed from Hattie, which of course we would never have done and she was spayed. I had neighbours and a person stop me in the street and ask me if I was to breed from Hattie they would buy a puppy - complete madness I suppose it's to stop all this awful business with puppies being born and having health issues due to bad breeding ???
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Hmm I guess it s just to stop people breeding. Il see if I can find it, it may have said if we did want to breed from him then we would have to ask the breeder and also have all the checks- it think but as i said i really cant remember! Il go and have a look for it now x
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! I also had to agree to have Millie spayed when we got her from the shelter as they didnt know if she was spayed or not . She came into season three months later , I rang to inform them and then had the devil of a job to stress that I use my own Vet , even though this was at our expense and so financially beneficial for the shelter . They did agree eventually but insisted that I post a copy of the Vet receipt to them before they would mark her as definately adopted and spayed on their records .
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Nevis is 7 months and has never cocked his leg, when do they normally start doing it?
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! [quote author=Bruer link=topic=4786.msg59445#msg59445 date=1394289894] Nevis is 7 months and has never cocked his leg, when do they normally start doing it? [/quote] I'm very sure all dogs vary. Charlie started around 9 months, but still doesn't do it all the time (he is just over one now). If he is "dogging up" in an area where loads of other dogs have marked all the lampposts he'll cock his leg, but most times when he is just going out because he needs a wee in the morning or evenings he'll still do a cute little girly squat.
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Yes its cute girly squats here : Our last dog rarely did it either in all his 16 years
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! [quote author=Fwhitt246 link=topic=4786.msg59400#msg59400 date=1394279454] Hmm I guess it s just to stop people breeding. Il see if I can find it, it may have said if we did want to breed from him then we would have to ask the breeder and also have all the checks- it think but as i said i really cant remember! Il go and have a look for it now x [/quote] I'd be pretty surprised if any contract like that could be enforced in a practical way (although the contract very may well state it, but it's not likely to be meaningful) - it's your dog, and just what would the breeder do if your dog sired some puppies, with or without checks? It is not unusual for the breeder to impose registration restrictions on any offspring. Which I take to mean the KC won't register them - I find this a very odd thing for the KC to agree to do, must look into that. You can't register offspring if the certificate of either parents is marked with "not eligible for registration": If either the dam or sire are endorsed with progeny not eligible for registration (i.e. that there is a restriction on file at the Kennel Club that prevents any puppies from being registered). Please refer to your owner certificate if you are unsure, the endorsement will be clearly displayed.
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Ok so I'm understanding right that the breeder makes you sign a contract?I can understand that breeding from your dog must not be undertaken lightly or without all the relevant checks but I can't get my head round that you are asked to sign a contract to commit to neutering?maybe I'm just being really dense here and missing the point ,sorry we weren't asked to sign anything ,but we've only done this the once.Is it something that's considered normal?I can understand Millie's situation when she has come from a shelter but when it's a private breeder I can't understand how they can ask you to do this....
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! I wonder if when Frankie finds the contract it will just say she has undertaken not to breed from him as I don't think a breeder can make you castrate or spay your dog :-\
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Yep found the contract. It doesn't say anything about specifically castrating. What it has is a breeding restriction sale agreement. It says that Murphy shall not be used for breeding purposes of any kind and has been registered with the endorsement that: Progeny not eligible for registration- unless he's had all the tests and scores etc and we send the results to her and then she will take the endorsement off the kennel club registration. Sorry to cause confusion! I just have read it and just taken it to mean it would be best to get him castrated and then mis remembered it! The rest of the contract we had to sign was a puppy sale agreement saying that we agree to keep the puppy in appropriate conditions and receive correct course of vaccinations and boosters each year etc etc.
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! [quote author=Fwhitt246 link=topic=4786.msg59482#msg59482 date=1394294303] Progeny not eligible for registration- unless he's had all the tests and scores etc and we send the results to her and then she will take the endorsement off the kennel club registration. [/quote] I like that - it is enforceable in a practical way, relatively fair to you as the buyer, and a very responsible thing to do. Good breeder!
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Yea at the time I thought it was good. I obviously just mis remembered the details! X
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! I think it was my lack of understanding causing confusion Frankie ;D not you I'm sorry x It's actually a very responsible policy and I hope that it works in eradicating some of the awful problems some dogs experience through awful breeding.....here's hoping What have you decided about going ahead?we got Dexter done when he was 13 months.....I'd had a bad scare when he got after a bitch in the park at 10 months .....I would have waited a bit longer until full maturity but we took advantage of the GA when he had to have his tail op.i only realized how tense I was on off lead walks after he'd been neutered,I really felt relieved. X
Re: Cocking his leg and weeing in the house! Obi was desexed at 7 months and started cocking his leg at about 14 months I think. He marks things, but not inside and not obsessively. Desexing/castrating may well help. I'd be getting in fast with the training solution though - back to basics.
