Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act Useful Roz, thank you.
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act Just been readint this Roz , the bit that worries me is that if your dog jumps up at visitors to your home, even if you know it to be a friendly gesture , if it worries the visitor then it is in contravention to the act . So, ok , our dogs shouldn jump up, we all know this but ...............
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act I watched them debating this on TV. (Select committee or something)It was interesting. There was a lot of discussion about what would happen if a dog attacked (or seemed threatening to) an intruder within the house and if that intruder was a minor. I wonder what the outcome of that was and also how the law differs in Scotland from in England and Wales. Any idea?
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act [quote author=kateincornwall link=topic=5846.msg75240#msg75240 date=1399654761] Just been readint this Roz , the bit that worries me is that if your dog jumps up at visitors to your home, even if you know it to be a friendly gesture , if it worries the visitor then it is in contravention to the act . So, ok , our dogs shouldn jump up, we all know this but ............... [/quote] Worrying stuff isn't it?!
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act It is, its a bit of a can of worms . Sam doesn jump up but Millie does, just to fuss, am trying to correct but not easy with an older dog
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act Very pleased though that attacking assistance dogs has now been against the law , I read about attacks on guide dogs , shocking
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act Mmm, I'm sure this information video was made with the best of intentions, but the makers do seem to have interpreted the amendments to the Bill in their broadest possible sense. Here's links that you can follow through to read for yourself the legislation. The original 1991 Act: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1991/65/contents And the proposed amendments: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/12/pdfs/ukpga_20140012_en.pdf (page 86, section 106) The summary states: The first clause extends the application of the offence of allowing a dog to be dangerously out of control to all places, including private property. The clause also extends the application of the offence to attacks on assistance dogs as well as people. The second clause clarifies the need for courts to take into account the character of an owner or keeper, as well as the temperament of the dog, its past behaviour and any other relevant circumstances, in judging whether a dog poses a danger to public safety. So owners with a responsible attitude to training and animal care would, I think, not face any risk being prosecuted for an isolated incident of friendly jumping up at the gas-man. I would imagine that the courts would take a pretty dim view of anyone trying to bring such a prosecution, given the pressure on their time and resources.
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act I truly hope you're right. I fought vehemently against the original Act (on grounds of it being breed specific and hurried) and am equally as worried about this amendment being misused and causing huge upset to owners of decent dogs by unscrupulous/nasty people
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act Am I right in thinking most attacks occur in the home between a dog and a family member? If my belief is correct this new regulation will just be a whole can of worms not achieving anything except affording some recourse to the law for a dog attacking an assistance dog. I particularly don't like the bias that if someone "considers" they have been threatened, Bob's your uncle - crime committed.
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act [quote author=MadMudMob link=topic=5846.msg75299#msg75299 date=1399660898] I fought vehemently against the original Act (on grounds of it being breed specific and hurried) [/quote] Oh absolutely, I completely agree! And there's all sorts of issues about this amendment, not least the extent to which the recommendations of he DEFRA enquiry were incorporated (or not!). But that aside, what Clare Williams has done is to paraphrase and give an individual opinion on how the Bill may be interpreted, without making it plain that this is, in fact, only an opinion. Nowhere does it say [quote author=David link=topic=5846.msg75300#msg75300 date=1399660950] that if someone "considers" they have been threatened, Bob's your uncle - crime committed. [/quote] What it does say is (amendments underlined (1)If a dog is dangerously out of control in any place in England or Wales (whether or not a public place) (a)the owner; and (b)if different, the person for the time being in charge of the dog,is guilty of an offence, or, if the dog while so out of control injures any person or assistance dog an aggravated offence, under this subsection. The bit about 'reasonable apprehension of injury' in the original Act which most closely resembles your concern, David, has been repealed. I would say the new requirement to look more broadly at the temperament of the dog in question and the actions of the owner with respect to dog ownership do, if anything, award more protection to responsible owners who may be on the wrong side of a one-off incident now than previously. The legislation was amended in response to cases where people had been badly attacked by dangerous dogs on private property, but no action could be taken against the owner of those dogs as it was on private land. I'm not saying it's a great piece of legislation, but just asking that people read and interpret it themselves and not fall into a Chinese Whispers trap, as I don't think the average Forum owner has much to lose sleep about.
Re: IMPORTANT: all dog owners need to know the changes to the Dangerous Dogs Act Thx MMM the vid was very informative. It doesn't affect me personally yet but I have friends who have dogs to guard their house and they will need to be aware of this
