Maisie has broken another tooth, this time I have no idea how, she was playing with a golden retriever and we noticed a bit of blood on his ear. Lo and behold, the bottom left canine was split in half... So back to the dental vet for another extraction surgery . The cost will be cheaper without the spay, but it's more anesthesia and still probably in the 4-500$ range. My partner offered to pay. I think I'll let him split it since she's my responsibility. It happened at his house both times (and on/near a Friday the 13th!!) so he feels responsible. Poor little mite. The dental vet had just closed when we discovered it but they're open Sat morning so I'll call them up and set things up for another surgery.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Oh my, poor Maisie! I wonder if she has some genetic predisposition to weaker enamel or teeth or something? What an ordeal for her (and you!) Hope she gets sorted soon.... :-\
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Yes I wondered if she has particularly susceptible teeth... Hope she doesn't have ongoing dental issues . I just got a better look at her mouth and she's got her two lower canines growing in but hasn't lost either (one only partially lost ha), and I'll check the top right to see if she has double teeth there as well... Who knows how many teeth will come out at the surgery!!!
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Oh the poor lass!!!! Unlucky indeed... Did she have X-rays as part of her last treatment? Might show whether she has weaker than normal enamel (I'm just guessing there). It could just be a complete co-incidence though. My dog has weak enamel bands in his teeth due to an infection (high temp) as a puppy which affected the way the enamel was deposited at that time. It's not genetic, just environmental. But it doesn't make his teeth more prone to splitting - just the enamel flaking off in places. We are quite familiar with the inside of the veterinary dental specialist's surgery too.... Much sympathy to you and Maisie!
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Oh dear me,what a shame.Im sure the vet will consider if there is an underlying problem now that it's happened again.Poor little thing,let us know how you get on x
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Ah, what bad luck. But glad you know what to do, and can get it sorted quickly.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Argh you poor things. Hopefully the big teeth will be stronger (this is a puppy tooth, right?)
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Yes it is a puppy tooth. While it seems odd she's had 2 break, I've read it's not actually uncommon with breeds or dogs that use their mouth crazily. The puppy teeth are brittle, especially as they come out, so I understand. The vet did do x rays and probably will again so I'll ask why she thinks she's prone to it or if it's coincidence. They both happened during a big playful time do using mouth a lot. Edit: Some good news as I wait for the dental vet to open - she appears to have *fully* lost her other bottom canine (not the broken one!). Her new canine was already coming in so I thought perhaps the vet would take that one too... Or it would break! But now we are down to one top intact baby tooth and one broken bottom one.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Amber broke both her top puppy canines within a week of each other at around 3 months of age. She had to have surgery too. Luckily because she did them so close together they were removed in one operation. Think she was just a particularly bad croco pup and am certain she did one when jumping to bite me and caught the tooth on my jeans!! All adult teeth came through fine and she's not broken those yet.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... [quote author=A.Causer link=topic=10184.msg149483#msg149483 date=1426353944] Amber broke both her top puppy canines within a week of each other at around 3 months of age. She had to have surgery too. Luckily because she did them so close together they were removed in one operation. Think she was just a particularly bad croco pup and am certain she did one when jumping to bite me and caught the tooth on my jeans!! All adult teeth came through fine and she's not broken those yet. [/quote] I'm relieved this happened to someone else (although poor Amber, that must've been a sad week for her). I think those teeth are just really brittle and ready to fall out and she uses her crocomouth so much. Her surgery is scheduled for the 25th, earliest we could get in. Hopefully her last puppy tooth (top canine) will either fall out or break (ha) between now and then so we won't have to do ANOTHER extraction. She seems fine today (been sleeping all morning since we slept at the boyfriends last night and she played chase so much with the golden retriever) but last night she was sitting on our laps crying SOOOOOO heartbreakingly. Different from her normal whining, just awful. So I know it's hurting her.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... That is rotten luck hopefully it will just be problems with her baby teeth!
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Huh, so the shard that remained has fallen out. I'm not sure if the rest of the tooth is still there (the root) and it looks like she's getting a little hard part/sore on her mouth where the shard used to be (like it may have been poking into her) so IDK, I'd like to take her in to a vet sooner than the 25th to see… I have no idea if the root is still in there, how to tell if the root is still in there, or what… eek! Goodness gracious. It looks totally absent, so we'll have to see! Of course I'm hoping it's all the way out but I don't want to let myself think it's over until we get a vet ok.. I'm sure my regular vet could do dental x-rays to check (although do they put them under for the x-rays?) and I wonder what they can do about the sore on her lip. She's also teething still and lost a molar on a toy today and was bleeding all over her other toys… eek! Edit: I was able to touch it gently and there's a sharp bit left so probably the root is still in there. Oh well! At least the sharp bit is gone and not poking her lip anymore so that can heal. We're going to set up an appt for Wednesday to get the X-rays done. I must say, all this teeth thing is at least getting Maisie used to someone poking their fingers in her mouth. She's just the absolute sweetest darling though. So many cuddles. And really, the first surgery worked out in her favour as she got used to sleeping on the bed and I didn't feel like retraining being in the crate overnight so she sleeps on the bed now.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... I found this about the roots of the baby teeth (from here Puppies are usually born without any teeth. The temporary (or deciduous = “fall out”) teeth begin to erupt around 3 weeks of age. By 8 weeks of age most breeds of dogs will have their full complement of deciduous teeth – 28 in all. These are comprised of 6 incisors (the small front teeth), 2 canines (the “fangs”) and 6 premolars (3 on each side) on both the top and bottom jaws. These deciduous teeth are quite brittle (hence they can break easily) and they have very long roots compared with the size of the tooth. Usually nothing goes wrong and the astute owner will notice the apparently rootless deciduous tooth (baby tooth) just “hanging” from the gum with maybe a little bleeding and then it falls out. The reason that these teeth have “no” roots is that the permanent tooth grows up from where the tip of the root is. As it erupts up through the jawbone, the root of the deciduous tooth is eaten away. If the permanent tooth bud is not in exactly the right position, it will erupt next to the deciduous tooth which, in turn, will not fall out. It can’t fall out, as the root is still present. Other Problems A common problem seen with deciduous teeth is teeth that are broken. These teeth are much more fragile than adult teeth and can quite easily be broken especially in “aggressive” puppies such as Bull Terriers etc. These teeth should be extracted as soon as noticed (especially before they abscess). A broken tooth (whether it is a deciduous or permanent) will always form an abscess at the root tip. You can’t see this as it is in the bone of the jaw but bacteria travel down through the pulp (root canal) of the broken tooth and infect the base. This does cause pain but as the dog is a “pack animal” it will avoid showing oral pain (which would be a sign of weakness) and many owners interpret this as not causing any problems. If the abscessed deciduous teeth are not extracted, the abscess at the root tip may infect or damage the forming permanent tooth bud.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Interesting about how it can't fall out if the other tooth showed up - as she did have a double row of teeth on the bottom for awhile before the baby tooth fell out, and she has all her new canines poking up but hasn't lost one of the top ones (I'm worried actually they may suggest pulling that one as well since the other tooth is coming in) and she lost her other bottom one after the big tooth was coming in… AH! Teeth are complex little beasts. She's booked in for tomorrow afternoon to do the consult bit that she needs for the surgery anywys, instead of doing it all on the 25th, so she can explain what's going on with her teeth and maybe take a look at the other ones in her mouth.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Poor wee Maisie. Hope you get on Ok at the vet and that she gets it sorted soon so she's not suffering :'(
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Wellllll she just broke her last remaining intact canine at the park, jumping up on me and snagging her tooth on the fabric. Ironically, we were playing a game to teach *not* to jump up… although it includes encouraging to jump up and then rewarding when they don't/ignoring when they do… anyways. Good thing we have an appt tomorrow. OUT IT WILL COME and then the whole nightmare will (hopefully) be over, knock on wood, as that's her last canine and it seems like her other teeth are either sturdier or just not in such a position that they can get hooked on stuff and chop off. She had fun at the park anyways.
Re: Born under an unlucky star... Oh no, poor Maisie! Well, at least you have a doggy dentist lined up. I would ask some questions about this though...hopefully just a puppy teeth thing, and you've seen the back of it. But does seem strange. I don't think we have had many puppies at all on the forum damage teeth, let alone three!
