Gracy is Black Labrador Retriever that doesn't retrieve. I saw Pippa's article on totallygundogs.com and thought "Here's my chance." I got a couple clickers and set to work charging. Gracy loved that, hear a click, get a treat, she figured that one out quick. I even got her to come up the stairs and seek me out. Charging worked great. Back to retrieving, I'm not a hunter, but love playing fetch with a willing participant. Gracy loves to chase something down, just not give it back. Given that she doesn't need any incentive to pick an item up, I moved on to the release. I took her outside, placed a ball on the ground and she picked it up and promptly ran off with it. I'm standing back where I started just clicking away as Gracy prances through the yard with her ball. She was so happy to get the ball that she really didn't care what I was doing. When she let me get close enough to her I was finally able to distract her long enough, by throwing treats at her, for me to get the ball. OK, the yard was a bad idea, let's try the garage. In the garage, I but the ball down, she picks it up, can't go anywhere with it, so she pretty much just sits there and watches me. When I reach for the treats, she drops the ball and drools at me. I give her the treat and she eats it and picks up the ball again. There really isn't any rhyme or reason to when she picks it up and drops it. I think I may have answered my own question. I need to make her hold on to the ball for a bit before clicking, right? Pick up the ball, wait, wait, C&T. Just work up from there? I used up what treats I had set out for the session, and I was getting frustrated, so I just stopped for the night. Gracy really responds well to the clicker and I think I can use it for a lot of different things, I just need some validation that I am working the right way. My fear is she is going to give me the ball back when I'm in the garage, but when she gets room to move I am going to be out of luck. Thanks for listening.