Hope the link works ... http://www.surveymonkey.com/s_thankyou.aspx?sm=8BomuUbkNJO%2by6bQkrDLCmTrsP3JVpFV3cdTBj9vQM4%3d
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside I get the last page that says "Done" and I can't find the survey start point.....can you hunt it out please news hound?
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside There's always another side to these surveys. When we were living in Cornwall (hence my user name Morwenstow!) we lived in an area surrounded by farms. One day I was out walking my 2 year old Labrador (Winston) down a typical narrow West Country lane, when we came across a herd of about 50 cows being moved by the farmer to an adjacent field. Winston was off the lead when suddenly the cows stampeded obviously taking a dislike to my dog who turned an ran for his life! I flattened myself against the side of the bank and miraculously avoided being trampled to death. The farmer eventually found his cows in a field 3 miles away and after searching in vain for Winston a kind lady phoned 4 hours later to say that she had found him in her front garden unharmed. Ho hum! Roger
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside Here's a fresh link - sorry about that .... http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...loHYDg&usg=AFQjCNGQOA3iHX77RNAmkP1sprTMOGrO5g
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside I filled it in, but not sure what it will achieve. I'm guessing it will show that most people let their dogs off the lead, and believe them to be under control. But in the absence of any data showing just how that compares with the realities of how many dogs are actually under control, I'm not sure what it tell us.
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside hmm....yes she goes off lead, no I'm not in control, no she's never chased anything (other than a pheasant or a rabbit)...... Don't think I'm a good role model
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside that's one of those statistic things where it the questions are written in such a way as to show that 99.9% of the dog owning population are inconsiderate scum who don't care about farmers. where was the would you let your dog off the lead near livestock. the answer to this is of course no but i've seen others do it. do you keep to public footpaths. do you pick up your dog's excrement in fields all questions that might have helped to allow both sides to see the merit in the other. now, i live in a village with understanding farmers who put up with an awful lot of poo left in fields which badly affects their livestock. one in particular has the patience of a saint. he wouldn't hesitate to shoot dogs worrying his sheep and no one here i would imagine would blame him for a second, including me if it was one of mine even. having said i have dropped their leads around cows when i've felt in fear of my own safety. the dogs are always at the gate before me. :
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside Cows are big scary beasts. I would never knowingly go in a field with cows. I inadvertently did a couple of years ago when geocaching with Sophie and Lilly - the cach was near a tree and we had cows coming towards us. We ran (yes I RAN) to the edge of a field. There was no gate. We had to hop over the fence barbed wire and all and had to get Lilly for the first time ever to jump it. It was sooo scary. Lilly was a star though. Phew! Never again.
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside [quote author=hd link=topic=4439.msg54156#msg54156 date=1392336627] that's one of those statistic things where it the questions are written in such a way as to show that 99.9% of the dog owning population are inconsiderate scum who don't care about farmers. where was the would you let your dog off the lead near livestock. [/quote] It was a bit annoying, really. Although I clicked on the links to read about the trouble some farmers have with dogs and it was all a bit shocking. I haven't lived in the country for years and years, so had forgotten. We are London and beach based, and haven't done much work around countryside animals, so it did make me think a bit. I can recall Charlie away from sheep, birds, rabbits and squirrels (we've had chance to do some exercises with sheep on the other side of a fence, and we've always had to behave around the tame birds and small animals in London's parks) but I probably don't know what would happen if he suddenly had free access to a field full of lambs (that has never happened). So after this reading, am resolved to be very careful. That's useful, and has served a purpose.
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside I agree with HD a totally unbalanced survey. I would never go into a field of sheep or cows and let my dogs off lead. Unfortunately we have a rather nasty farm hand who thinks he is the land owner : and has threatened to shoot Hattie for chasing a pheasant, has branded a metal pole at the Clumber Spaniels owner and threatened to shoot his dogs when they were walking to heel and no livestock to be seen, Mark quite rightly called the police, he has generally made all the local dog walkers feel intimidated with his bullyboy behaviour. He has been reported to the farmer but still he continues, which is ironic as he can't let his extremely over weight lab off lead and drags him round choking him to death on a slip lead . I have seen him watching me and Hattie just waiting for her to do something wrong but she hasn't, well not infront of him. I am ready to confront him if he ever threatens me or Hattie again As far as I am concerned he scum not the dog walkers. I would complete a fare survey but not this one. There is always two sides. Sorry that was a bit of a rant. xx
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside Hhhhmmm not a great survey but I have filled it in - probably with the same answers as everyone else
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside I deliberately posted this without making a comment. Being a country peep I'm very pro farmer but I too felt this survey was leaning to one side. Thanks to you all for confirming it
Re: Farmers Guardian survey – you and your dog in the countryside It's what you would expect from a paper with an agenda - ie make news and sell papers. - Cows - yes she's off the lead. It's safer all round that way - Sheep - yes she's off lead on my local farms where we are known, unless the sheep are pregnant or have lambs. She doesn't chase sheep anyway but you can't be too careful. We pick up in fields full of sheep for goodness sake. Strangers farms I put her on a lead with sheep even though it's not necessary for obvious reasons. It's not normally a dog on it's own that's a problem with sheep although a single dog will chase them. It's more usually two or more dogs running together and they often revert to feral while chasing sheep and they then attack them. This results in the farmer having no option but to shoot them because the dogs are usually too dangerous to try to control in any other way. I think there are restrictions on the farmer shooting dogs if the owner is present but I might be wrong on that one.
