Inbreeding Coefficient score and Hip/elbow scores

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  1. Sellis

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    Hi all, looking at a sweet 6 week old yellow lab female pup. She is KC registered as are her parents and she is a lovely girl. She is raised by a lady who I can tell cares for them and she works in the animal medicine field. Mum is around 3 and is their pet and this is her first litter. Mum had a natural birth and dad is a stud who is a field champion with perfect health scores.Both parents and family lineage are KC registered.

    I am new to this and while I think the scores are good, I would like some advice on if this pup would be good? the inbreeding score of pup is a bit higher than I would like.

    Health Scores are as below:

    Dad:
    BVA Elbow score 0:0,
    BVA hip score 0:0,
    BVA Eye exam clear,
    PRA,CNM,EIC, SD2, HNPK clear.

    Mum:
    Bva hip 2-7 =9,
    Bva elbow 0:0,
    Bva eye = clear.

    Maternal Grandfather:
    Elbow score 0:0,
    Hip score 0:0,
    SD2 (dwarfism), EIC, CNM, PRA clear.


    Maternal Grandmother:
    Hip Score 3/6=9.
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    EBV:
    Based on parents average scores on their estimated breeding value, pup would be low risk.

    Dad's elbow was -13 (78% confidence) and his hip was -32% (85% confidence). Mums elbow was 16 (60% confidence) and her hip was -19 (70% confidence).
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    Pups have been raised with mum in a family setting, well socialised with cats and a baby.

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    inbreeding coefficient:
    However the inbreeding coefficient of pup as per the CK mate tool is 9.9%. Breed AVG is 6.6% is this a deal-breaker?
    Mums ICO was 8.0% and dad's was 8.5%.
    However pups results are based on 26 generations which are available, 9 of these complete.

    Is 9.9% inbreeding coefficient too high for a yellow lab?

    Based on the above, would you buy this pup?

    Thanks
     
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    May be worth mentioning mum had a litter of 9, all of which are good weight healthy and happy.
    I would just like to make a informed decision to ensure I am being responsible
     
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    Any replies would be super appreciated
     
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    Just giving your post a bump. I am not really experienced enough to answer but just wanted to say well done on doing your diligence checks. Hopefully someone will be able to reply soon.
     
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    Thank you so much, really appreciate your support. Honestly I've fallen in love with her so hoping someone can reassure me that the slightly higher breeding score isn't a massive deal-breaker
     
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    Hi
    So that was me in some of the chat. Toby is now coming up to 5 and doing really well but it was 18months of stress and distress for him for something that could possibly have been avoided with a different mate selected.
    I can’t advise you either way but I know I would pay more attention to the COI next time.Unfortunately the breeder stopped communicating when I questioned her choice of a friend’s dog so I don’t know if other puppies were reported to her. If you go ahead make sure you have good insurance onboard. All the best. Julie
     
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    aw I'm really sorry your pup has issues but glad they are on the mend!
    I have read online that under 10 is ok? So I was thinking 9.9% would still be ok for my pup?
     
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    I can’t really answer that as I’m not an expert. I think a lot of it come down to luck or in our case bad luck depending on which parent the pup gets it’s genes from. Well done for doing all the research and if you decide to go ahead put this all behind you and love your pup for who she is. Enjoy.
     

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