we have had willow 9 weeks now, since she was 8 weeks, so she is now 17 weeks old. i do all the training but my husband walks her at night and sometimes before work. from early on wiillow has been different with my husband, as in play fighting with him and drawing blood from him ! she has never done this to me or our 4 year old daughter. when i go to bed at 9 pm ( i i need lots of sleep!) my husband says as soon as i go to bed she turns into a devil dog, biting my husband (playing not aggesive) jumping all over sofa. mainly biting my husband and nothing he does stops her fromm keep going back, he tells her to get off the sofa and she barks at him. any ideas? i do the training as husband not about as much. also she is good at recalll out and wil come back when i call her but husband said yesterday she ran off to meet another dog and didnt come back. not sure what to do on this, i dont want my training undone. same as she heels lovely on the lead for me but for my husband she is all over the plalce.
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband Harley (21weeks old) is also very different with my hubby. Because her plays rougher than I do (I've got spinal problems), and has done since we first got her, she occasionally draws blood, but this is getting less as she gets older. She also doesn't walk to heel with him, she doesn't pull him, but doesn't walk like she does for me. I think it's because she has bonded more with me that she listens more to me. My hubby has started following my instructions over the past month to get her to know when to stop/listen to him - he now stands up, turns his back and ignores her when she gets too rough or won't listen.....it has started working. I make sure hubby uses the same words I do and before we were using different words as she didn't understand which I think didn't help. Hope you find a way of sorting this
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband My OH drives me MAD repeating commands. He'll say "sit, sit, sit, sit". I'll lose it and shout "once!". Charlie now sits to the command "once". : Just got to find your ways of managing the OH. :
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband [quote author=JulieT link=topic=3807.msg43385#msg43385 date=1388314694] Just got to find your ways of managing the OH. : [/quote] I am waiting for Pippa's book on OH training... Do you have a crate, Loverlab?? If so, when you go up to bed in the evenings, it might be an idea if Willow were to go in her crate with a kong or a chew - in the same room as your OH - so she still has the company but does not get herself worked up? It might help break that cycle of over-excitable play that she has come to expect at that time? Or maybe sell your OH the idea of being responsible for 'place' / mat training at that time of the evening??? Build his bond with Willow and introduce a command that will be really useful for evening relaxation? I have to confess that I don't let OH have control of Brew's lead yet... don't want the excellent progress she has made to be inadvertently sabotaged... Does that make me a control freak? Definitely. ;D ;D Clare
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband [quote author=ClareJ link=topic=3807.msg43397#msg43397 date=1388324306]I have to confess that I don't let OH have control of Brew's lead yet... don't want the excellent progress she has made to be inadvertently sabotaged... Does that make me a control freak? Definitely. ;D ;D Clare [/quote] I have just cancelled an over night trip for New Year's because it would mean OH doing 2 of Charlie's lead walks...just because I can now get round the park passed other dogs without us looking a total disgrace - that progress is still too fragile to hand it over. Charlie takes OH for a walk, not the other way round!
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband [quote author=ClareJ link=topic=3807.msg43397#msg43397 date=1388324306] Or maybe sell your OH Clare [/quote] I know, I know, I am wildly mis-quoting Claire out of context ;D ;D Seriously though, sounds like you need OH on board. Needs to be "his idea" though, so might need creative thinking. We share your pain :
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband You should see what my two do to the OH. He has absolutely no control. ;D . Although to be honest it does annoy me sometimes as I end up having to tell them off . When they were pups theyd both dive on him on the couch. I pointed out he needed to stop it as they wouldn't be small for long. His reply was always 'it's fine'. Now he gets dived on by two fully grown 27 kg Labradors which isn't fine but his own fault. They also get ridiculously excited every time they see him even after only 5 minutes apart although as they've got older they calm down quicker. OH s !!!!! :
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband I know! I know! Charlie gets to lie on OH's tummy, all 30kg of him, and lick OH's ears...which turns into a mad wrestling match as dog tries to reach ears and OH tries to avoid. I wouldn't mind but Charlie now thinks this is the way to say hello to everyone sitting down in the front room. My SIL was very startled, over Christmas, when the dog landed on her tummy...
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband Oh I feel your pain. You should try OH and 4 children . I am thinking maybe a crate for them ;D ;D
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband [quote author=drjs@5 link=topic=3807.msg43408#msg43408 date=1388325488] Or maybe sell your OH Clare [ [/quote] Oh Jacqui I thought exactly the same when I read that!! Sometimes I'd just give mine away!!only joking,he is lovely,really! This is a great post as I was going to post about this and ask your opinions ......we've had a nightmare couple of days with Dexter and I truly believe ,without sounding mean ,its because Chris has been walking him more than usual.In the normal course of events dexters lead walking is competent ,his general obedience is good ,if a bit indolent ( he'll lower himself to a sit sometimes in his own time :and his recall is pretty good. Chris has had 2 weeks off work and has been walking Dexter more than usual,coupled with my commitments to my friends dog last week added to which was Christmas with routine slightly out of kilter( although Dexters walks and meal times weren't disrupted)and more going on in the house generally. I've noticed this last week he has needed more management on his lead walks...I can always tell by the amount of kibble and chicken we get through and the time my chosen circuit takes us....if we fly round it in an hour we've done ok...if it's longer we've been correcting a lot. We had an abscond last week when Dexter ran home after chris from the park ,flew across the road to our house and totally ignored his recall.it was my fault as we had been playing hide and seek and recalling him between us with the whistle.Chris had just nipped home to get a ball and I thought Dexter could be trusted when Chris went out of sight.....wrong!!!least he went home but I lost a few years off my life!and made me realise that cats aren't my only recall issue,we need to back up and revise. Visitors left yesterday and I stayed home to tidy up,chris took Dex out at tea time,I got cleared up so went out to find them for a play.....I walked through the snicket into the park and so was hidden by trees and bushes.goodness gracious....I could have disowned both of them....Dexter pulling and lunging like he'd never been on a lead before ,chris yanking him back . I was livid!added to the excitement there was a hot air balloon going over head.....anyway instead of steaming in like I usually do,I just watched to see how this played out....basically the wrestling match continued and when I could bear it no longer I caught up with them from behind( Dexter would have gone stratospheric if I'd approached from the front)it transpired that Dexter had flushed a cat in the first 5 minutes of the walk ,this to him is the dizzy highs and Chris hadn't been able to regain his focus from that....... It's frustrating......I'm sure it puts you back.I had to compromise with this a long time ago as Chris will not do what I show him ,I'm sure it's because he doesn't like me being 'better' at something than him,I'm not 'better' I'm just trying to do it properly and I have more time to put into Dexter....my Husband is so competitive though.i know he won't do the stop start ,360 degree turn if Dexter ever pulls because he thinks he looks stupid ,so dexter self rewards on all of his lead walks with Chris,we've rowed about it,I've cried about it and we've had the frostiness about it ......in the end I've just had to accept that my efforts will always be diluted and things will always take longer I've been back in charge of lead walking today.this morning we set off with the clicker,right back to the beginning ,10 steps without pulling was our base line :-[.........but by the end of the walk I was up to 200 with a loose lead and Dexter was on board with what behaviour was expected for forward momentum to continue ;D this evenings walk he was brilliant apart from a cat incident but I got him straight into a sit ,although he was bristling ,and got him past the cat with minimal barking :-[ a load of look at me's and chicken.....not perfect I know but we can manage it that way without looking a complete mess. Dexter is generally so good and responsive to me ,I've been a bit disappointed about how quickly things fall apart if he isn't managed....do you think it is the case he's got sloppy because he's been allowed more freedom or is it just coincidence and you have blips along the way? Sorry if I've hijacked a post,it did just seem to be in the same vein.....
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband I honestly think its the same as kids - you need consistency. If you don't, they will play one against the other and constantly switch allegiances. Dad's good for the toast corners, gravy bones at bedtimes, but stick to mum in the morning and its breakfast and walkies :-\ The less structure and consistency, more chance of going AWOL and taking advantages. Its just SO BLOOMIN' DIFFICULT to get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet!
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband Angela, much sympathy. I had a bit of a nightmare walk today too. My OH's proposed solution - which I stopped - was to pick Charlie up and carry him home! I give up. Well, for today anyway. :
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband [quote author=drjs@5 link=topic=3807.msg43465#msg43465 date=1388339653] Its just SO BLOOMIN' DIFFICULT to get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet! [/quote] You can say that again, in bold AND italics. I feel for you, Angela, as changes in routine that inevitably come with Christmas and extra visitors make things difficult even before changes in consistency of approach of whoever is holding the lead... I like to keep control, because basically with Mark's working hours and routines, it is me who looks after them 99.9% of the time. Um, can probably even add a few extra decimal places there! He likes them, he wants them to be well trained, but he doesn't want to be overly involved in the training. On Boxing Day we were walking through the coastal town of Largs, the 5 of us, additional family and the dogs. I'm sure he thought I was being deliberately awkward every time I spun about and set off the other way... I took my consolation elsewhere - a gentleman going in the other direction watched me turn her, her sit automatically and then set off again calmly in the right direction. He came over and said, 'That's really impressive!' That moment made up for all the Christmas frustrations of removing the dogs from the (leather) armchairs and the laps of OH and my father-in-law, reminding the OH from between gritted teeth that he was the one who had specified no dogs on the armchairs in the first place, and removing plates of scraps from FIL before he gave them to the dogs with the (forced) cheerful cry that he was welcome to feed them that if he was poo-picking tomorrow! I think you have to celebrate your successes whenever you can and just keep reminding yourself you love them all and that normal service will be resumed shortly!!! I'm guessing that Chris's work patterns will mean it reverts to usually being you out doing the walking again soon?? Hang on in there Once you are back in normal routine, I find it easier to re-negotiate more calmly... Clare
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband [quote author=drjs@5 link=topic=3807.msg43482#msg43482 date=1388343335] Did you reward yourself with a wee visit to Nardini's Claire?? [/quote] Would have been rude not to. Clare
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband Just over a year ago I had surgery on my right hand and couldn't take the dogs out for a fortnight. OH took them out on his own every day yet previously had not done any training or walking on his own. They totally took the mick, constantly running off chasing deer, self-rewarding etc. All of a sudden, "no" meant "go". Took me three months to get them back under control.
Re: puppy mis-behaving for husband OH worked Alice, Caddie and Murffi on shoot days while I was below par after the accident. It will probably take me the next 9 months to get them back into shape for next season. Only kidding, they are absolutely fine. But joking aside, I wouldn't let him anywhere near Ziggy with regards to work or training. It is way too easy to ruin a trialling dog.
