Does anyone else have this experience? Maisie has been trying to get into the back garden (or so it seemed) for a few days, I assumed she would continue running if I didn't recall her, but I've kept recalling her and she turns right around and gets treats and then comes inside just fine. So today I let her run just to see what she would do/what she wanted, and she runs to the point I normally recall her (maybe 10 ft away) and stops, looking at me all expectantly: Mum, aren't you going to call me so I can have treats??? She doesn't really do this when she's off lead, although she does run back to me for a treat very frequently and sticks quite close to me (I have to throw something to do a recall when it's just us to get her away from me).
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? 8) 8) 8) 8) she's playin you!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) sounds like it's time to start the gambling effect and not rewarding every single recall... or...work with what you've got started, and put the behavior on command... like a "head out" or "go on" so that her "run out, turn and wait for instructions" has a purpose.
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? I always reward a recall. It's possible that she has learned a chain - run - stop - return for reward. In which case you can stop rewarding the chain. But then you've got to reward whatever you do want her to do instead. What is it that you want? If you want her to turn back at 10ft just keep doing what you are doing (although I wouldn't use my recall for this, it's too important). Or do you want her not to run in the first place? In which case switch to rewarding her for that.
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? [quote author=JulieT link=topic=10327.msg151857#msg151857 date=1427222775] I always reward a recall. It's possible that she has learned a chain - run - stop - return for reward. In which case you can stop rewarding the chain. But then you've got to reward whatever you do want her to do instead. What is it that you want? If you want her to turn back at 10ft just keep doing what you are doing (although I wouldn't use my recall for this, it's too important). Or do you want her not to run in the first place? In which case switch to rewarding her for that. [/quote] Well, I do recall her when running towards something she shouldn't run towards (i.e. another dog, human, or whatever). She doesn't actually stop though, just turns around and runs back towards me. So she has possibly learnt this chain, although she does know to recall when she's just off anywhere and not running. And she hasn't done this before at all. Mostly when she's off leash, she is returning of her own volition, not being recalled, and I do reward that. Hmm. It's difficult as there are so few off leash areas nearby, we mostly do a recall in the house or in the same park. Maybe I'll use my last lesson I have paid for with a private trainer (got a set of 4) to do a session off leash in the park to work on recall games and figure out if I'm rewarding anything I don't really want to reward (i.e. rewarding for running away, for instance).
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? The chain might be specific to the back garden only...
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? I asked for a sit/wait today and that worked, so perhaps I'll just ask for an alternative behaviour for now.
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? ok..why can't she run round the garden though? I mean, why are you recalling her at all in the garden?
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? It is not my garden to let her run around in, unfortunately - landlord had it done recently all landscapey and fancy and so my dog is not allowed to trot about it in (I understand because she likes to destroy/dig/chew plants).
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? oh, ok. Well, maybe when she's a bit older and not so into digging and chewing....
Re: Recall - running away in order to be recalled? Yes, she is just so in love with dirt at her age right now… Someone edged the sidewalk outside our house and she couldn't help herself by it. We'll be able to drive to some better off leash parks soon that are fenced in and do some hiking when she's a bit older so she'll get her fill of off leash and dirt soon enough!