I'm looking for opinions and advice. I have a friend who has used electronic remote training collars on his hunting dogs for many years. One of the features he uses most with his younger dogs is the beep. When the young dog is far afield, rather than shouting or whistling, he simply beeps the dog. Since the collar is right by the dog's ear, the dog hears it and turns to locate his owner, who then uses hand signals to direct the dog. He teaches the dog to look to him when beeped with lots of rewards and praise before he ever goes out in the field. In the very rare occasions necessary, he will use a mild shock (settings 1 or 2 out of 8 ) for a correction, but the beep is almost always enough. He taught his 6 month old GSP not to eat cow manure by first using his "leave it" command, then a beep, then finally a mild #1 shock (all in rapid succession). He had to do just a few times before the dog figured out that cow manure was not worth the hassle. Have any of you ever used this type of collar? Any views you want to share? My initial thought was, "Use a shock collar on my dog?? Not a chance!", but my buddy's method and approach seem humane and reasonable... :-\ ???