Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

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  1. JulieT

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    Trying to get Charlie to pee in one place in the garden - at the end. Made a little outside space for him.

    So, help me with this - I've approached it the same way as house training, lots of treats for going in the right bit of the garden. But, I'm still giving small treats for going in the garden at all. I'm not having huge success.

    If I take him to the new area, and he knows I've got a treat, and I give his cue, he'll "squeeze" a bit out for the treat.

    But if he really, really wants to go, say just after supper, or when he has been in the house a while, he goes in his normal place - on the lawn, or on my ferns or geraniums.

    OH says of course he wants to pee on soft surfaces, and doesn't want to pee on gravel. Is that right? But he is happy enough to do so for a treat sometimes.

    Sea biscuits (his favorite thing in the whole world apart from fresh fish) for going in the right place in the garden, a couple of kibble for going in the garden. Also running down the garden with him, encouraging him like mad to get to the right place, holding a sea biscuit under his nose - but he just swerves off the run, wees on my geraniums, then bounds after me hoping for the sea biscuit (he gets the kibble instead).

    I can't get him to the right place without going through the main garden.

    Shall I quit the treats for going in the garden at all? It's been a while since we've had an accident in the house, so I think he's got the basics now.
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Can't advise, sorry. Ours just copy the resident dog, and they all wee on the gravel area. I just wanted to ask, what are sea biscuits? Shall have to look them up.
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    They are dried cod skin pressed into a square, from a company called Fish for Dogs - Charlie gets "tiddlers" as a special, and a sea jerky for jackpot treat. They stink, which is a good thing if you are a puppy...
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Can't help either as Riley pees wherever he pleases. Since he started cocking his leg he likes to pee up against something so the apple tress are favourite and the shed corner, that's about it.
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    I don't think I can help much either - lilly will poop on gravel but much prefers long grass to go in.
    I did see one of those pee posts in the US petstore and I am sure I have seen them here too.
    It said is was impregnated with something that attracted the dog to the area to pee - I have never known anyone that has used it but wondered if anyone else had or if it might help you.
    Ages ago there was a thread about this - I remember as it was about which "cue words" to use (and not to use ;D ) and about how guide dogs were taught to go only in certain places. Try searching for it -too fiddly a job for my phone just now!

    Jac
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Thanks Jac, I'll do a search for that. I'm fond of my garden, and he has pee that seems to kill all plant life...
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Consideration appreciated Julie Thankyou ;D

    Just typed a lengthy post and realized it was anecdotal not helpful,I've been lucky on this ,Dexter has always just gone where he was shown so i have no advice,but when we changed his area due to him chewing on the ornamental stones and hard paved it he didn't like it and now he goes in one corner of the grass that he gravitated to himself and it isn't too destructive.....but you know from what my last 24 hours have been like that I am probably being caterpulted ( or cater-pulled by a rampant lab) into new territory ;D
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    ha angela.......no advice as my fella as ruined my garden.....wish he would start cocking his leg :)
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    I read somewhere that you should get your husband to pee on the gravel which will encourage the dog to do the same! I bought a "pee post" but that didn't work! Only my bitch goes in the designated area, the boys won't go in the garden unless they are desperate.

    Stacia
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    hi stacia,........what do you do if you have no hubby :)
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Omg - I can just imagine, when he gets home tonight. "Darling, just a little chore before you settle down...! Nope, that would not go down well...particularly since patch of gravel overlooked by next door kids' tree house!
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Answer Lynne,you can suit yourself ;) Has the vet visit happened yet?
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Hi there,

    I'm far from expert on anything doggy but Rosie consistently uses the same corner of the garden. Like you I love my garden and didn't want to give her free reign to ruin it. I used the taxi method from the start where you just repeatedly take them to the same spot and wait till business is done. You don't give them access to the garden so it's about restricting until they've learned. Now Rosie can play on the grass with me and my kids and she'll leave it to go pee/poo if she needs too. Although I still use the taxi method regularly throughout the day to help remind her. I find things go pear shaped if I'm not on the ball and watching her.

    Hope this helps! x
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Thanks jennyann, I was a bit stressed out in the early days, so let him have free access, you sound like you've got it sorted, I'm playing catch up on the garden saving now!
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    [quote author=Stacia link=topic=2002.msg16940#msg16940 date=1373897673]
    I read somewhere that you should get your husband to pee on the gravel which will encourage the dog to do the same! I bought a "pee post" but that didn't work! Only my bitch goes in the designated area, the boys won't go in the garden unless they are desperate.

    Stacia
    [/quote]

    Oh my gosh! ........this post had me in hoots of laughter (sorry) *smirk, smirk*

    jac
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    I cracked this, by the way. The trick was to MASSIVELY up the rewards for pee and poo in the right place. For 2 days, he got 4 sea biscuits for a pee, and 6 for a poo, in the right place compared to a few kibble for the rest of the garden. So many treats also had the effect of making him poo a bit more, which gave me more opportunities for rewards.... a positively reinforcing circle! Now, happily, he trots off on his own behind the trellis to his toilet, and it's all clean and easy to clean up.

    Now, Charlie, about the digging in the garden...
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Well done!box ticked...now like you say,onto the next thing..because there is always the next thing ;D
     
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    Re: Tips please... (Angela, warning, put your food down, it's about wee)

    Good job! :)
     
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    Impressive ;D
     

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