Undoing good work

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  1. UncleBob

    UncleBob Supporting Member Forum Supporter

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    Hi all,

    How easy is it for good behaviour and training to be undone? I'm specifically thinking of when guests come to visit and encourage a young puppy to jump up (I'm currently sharing Harvey's doghouse for being a little harsh with my training of our guests when they did this! :p )
     
  2. charlie

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    Re: Undoing good work

    UncleBob, put the visitors in the doghouse!! ;D Helen x
     
  3. Oberon

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    It can be very, very hard to get rid of a jumping up habit if some guests tolerate or, even worse, encourage it. So, they do need educating if they're doing the wrong thing. Or else just keep your pup on lead and under your control if guests can't behave :)
     
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    I had such badly behaved guests! Charlie rapidly developed a jumping up habit, and we're still dealing with it from time to time...

    I ask people to say "no" and ignore him when we are out and about. And I issue kibble, clickers and instructions to my guests before they come into the house. Seriously, I don't do this with absolutely everyone, but I've roped in a few of my friends, my dad, my cleaner etc. C&T for paws on the floor does work.
     
  5. bbrown

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    sadly when the undoing is such fun you do need to take your guests in hand....I've had several firm conversations about the do's and don'ts with my absolutely lovely in-laws who think Riley is wonderful (although he has been superseded by the granddaughter) :D
     
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    Oh gosh sympathies...it's a tricky one.......wait until they start feeding Harvey titbits aaaaagggghhhh!! We almost lost friends over it......We didn't thankfully but bet the same friends would be having a bit of a grump about us now though if they came round and had a 24kg body slam from an overexcited Labrador at the front door.thats what you need to keep in mind when you feel a bit sabotaged,puppies are cute and playful but your guests won't be so enamoured when Harvey takes them over by the front gate! ;)
     
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    Re: Undoing good work

    [quote author=JulieT link=topic=2984.msg31486#msg31486 date=1382353514]
    I had such badly behaved guests! Charlie rapidly developed a jumping up habit, and we're still dealing with it from time to time...

    I ask people to say "no" and ignore him when we are out and about. And I issue kibble, clickers and instructions to my guests before they come into the house. Seriously, I don't do this with absolutely everyone, but I've roped in a few of my friends, my dad, my cleaner etc. C&T for paws on the floor does work.
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    Crickey, Julie, you are very trusting with clicker and treats. ;D
     
  8. JulieT

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    [quote author=heidrun link=topic=2984.msg31502#msg31502 date=1382357594]

    Crickey, Julie, you are very trusting with clicker and treats. ;D
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    I made 3 of my friends and my dad watch the kikopup video first! ;D Funny, they don't come round so much anymore...in fact, there are a few people I haven't seen lately... :-\
     
  9. Dexter

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    Oh Julie you are funny!but I admire you sticking to your guns and doing things your way!
    Real friends will understand and thank you when they aren't bowled over of by a chocolate steam train!x
     
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    [quote author=UncleBob link=topic=2984.msg31474#msg31474 date=1382352589]
    How easy is it for good behaviour and training to be undone? [/quote]

    A matter of seconds is the answer to that :)
     
  11. kateincornwall

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    Hi Uncle Bob , yes , undoing good work is one of lifes problems with pups . I had ( note had ) a friend and neighbour who insisted on calling to Sam from accross the lane when I was attempting to lead train him, I tried the polite route, it didnt work and so sadly, we parted company simply because she refused to accept that Sam is my dog, not hers . Similarly , my daughters partner was playing tug with Sam, not allowed in our house at all , thankfully a nice request not to do this was noted .
    The jumping up issue is a pain , escpecially when people say " Oh I dont mind " ::) best reply is to nicely say " But I do " :)
     
  12. UncleBob

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    Thanks for the feedback. Glad to know I'm not alone.

    I'm afraid that being subtle is not one of my strengths and I tend just say what I'm thinking, especially if somebody pretends that they didn't hear my first request (I don't say things to be deliberately rude or offensive, I just call it how I see it) - apparently this isn't appropriate behaviour with friends and relatives and so there was no C&T for me ;)

    I'll work on better training techniques for use on our visitors :)
     
  13. Christoph W

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    [quote author=kateincornwall link=topic=2984.msg31566#msg31566 date=1382378914]
    The jumping up issue is a pain , escpecially when people say " Oh I dont mind " ::) best reply is to nicely say " But I do " :)
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    Most of the time they dont mind as long your doggy is a tiny, little 10kg fellow with clean paws. But from my experience the "I dont mind" people very quickly turn into "OOHH NOO my white jeans" people when a 30kg dog jumps up on them seconds after he enjoyed dashing through a buddle of mud. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
     
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    [quote author=Christoph W link=topic=2984.msg31712#msg31712 date=1382451463]
    [quote author=kateincornwall link=topic=2984.msg31566#msg31566 date=1382378914]
    The jumping up issue is a pain , escpecially when people say " Oh I dont mind " ::) best reply is to nicely say " But I do " :)
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    Most of the time they dont mind as long your doggy is a tiny, little 10kg fellow with clean paws. But from my experience the "I dont mind" people very quickly turn into "OOHH NOO my white jeans" people when a 30kg dog jumps up on them seconds after he enjoyed dashing through a buddle of mud. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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    Absolutely, my sister in law came to visit today, I have my two dogs sat at the front door, treats in my hand, she enters, then comes the very excited voice (very loud lady :eek:) dogs jump up at her all 55 kilos combined weight, and she says "Oh are you still trying to train them" :mad: I make them wait at the kitchen door, she shrieks at them to "come in", I very nearly lost my temper with her, she just totally ignored everything I was trying to train. Other people are a bigger pain to train than the dogs ::) Helen x
     
  15. Oberon

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    Re: Undoing good work

    Ain't that the truth....

    The first time we took Obi round to my parent's house he was leaping about like a springbok. I asked my Mum to either ask him to sit or turn her back if he jumped, rather than making kissy noises. She said "Well, I can't help you train your dog!". I said, "You're training him either way, whether you like it or not!".
     

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