URGENT! Puppy Found Critical Hip Displasia, Only Both Joints are Totally Out of Socket! please help

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  1. honey148

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    my puppy have hip dysplasia due to slippery Tiles, her parents are fine,
    we have done xray, her both hip joints are totally out,
    vet university said there is no chance of any operation now. they cant do any thing,
    what should i do?
     
  2. Oberon

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    I'm sure this is a very stressful situation. I'm sorry that your puppy has been found to have a hip problem.

    How old is your puppy?

    Is your puppy able to walk on her own?

    If your puppy's hip joints are so bad that there is basically no actual hip socket (which is what I assume you mean) then that's unlikely to be due to slippery tiles. That kind of hip joint is probably going to be an inherited problem. Even parents with good hips can have puppies with bad hips, though it is less likely. Did you personally see copies of the parents' hip score certificates and pedigree certificates and did you verify that these matched the actual dogs?

    Did the vet hospital say that they can't do anything about your pup yet because she is too young? Did they say that a solution might be possible once she is older and has stopped growing?

    Generally the treatment for very, very badly formed hip joints is a hip replacement, in which the whole ball and socket joint on each side of the pelvis is replaced with a new, artificial ball and socket joint. Did the vet talk about this at all?
     
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    thanks alot for reply, GOD Bless you, this make my stress out,

    my puppy is 7 month old LAB female, i adopted of my relative but i know they have excellent Hip score,i remember that person was with my when he did xray of my puppy parents..

    hospital said we have nothing, especially in this country, there is no treatment of this position,
    they said because joints arent in socket even 10%
    left one is worse, but both are out,
    she was running and walking just fine, but yesterday when i saw her limping, i got shocked, i suddenly taken her to VET, we did xray and result not fixable, he said she is now only on pain killer,
    we started giving her GLYCOFLEX but i know this isnt solution,

    she is still walking after painkiller, she doesnt understand because she is animal, but she like running :( but its bad for her for now..
    she can walk like she have nothing, but she did bunny hope once yesterday,

    i can provide you xray,
    i think i lost hope.. may be you can help..

    i think that artificial balls and socket joints in puppy may be difficult, but they said there is no technique in india like that..
    but im going tomorrow Government Vet university, i dont know what to do..
     
  4. drjs@5

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    Please try not to worry.
    My girl was diagnosed with severe hip dysplasia on both hips before she was a year old.
    She had a limp after struggling with lots of snow where we lived.
    She has not had any surgery and she is 5 years old now and leads a full active wildlife-chasing and happy life just taking a regular painkiller.
    Please don't despair!
     
  5. Oberon

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    It's good that you're seeing another vet tomorrow. It can help to get more than one opinion.

    It sounds like your pup is able to walk and run about quite well, even though her hips may be a little bit sore at times. Anti-inflammatories and pain reducing medications will probably help her a lot, so it's great that she is now on this medication. What kind of painkillers did the vet put her on? Do you know the name of the medication?

    I know this is really, really stressful. But definitely don't despair or panic. Even though she has a hip problem, she can still have a happy and long life.
     
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    Thanks aton, God bless you all, Really gave me breath, you guys are champion..
    im giving GLYCO FLEX, Calcium,Vitamin d3 and Pain medicine named as MELOXCAM Chewable Tablets 1mg METAFLAM, (1 tablet a day)
    @drjs@5;n271095 that gave me courage, i hope they live long,
    when i see her XRAY, it looks and feels very Painful, because her Hips joints are totally out,
    her is her xray,(ingore Pen marks)


    her weight is 22KG, trying to reduce, but she becomes so hungry, really difficult situation..
    we are giving food 3 times, 70-80 GMs of Drool Focus diet, evening 2 wheet floor Chapatis night. 70-80gms Diet. is that correct?
    what thing to make her slim and less hungry?

     
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    Some great advice from others already. On the diet check on the food bag the quantity she should be getting for her age and then share that between her meals. At 7 months she is still growing so her food and growth needs to be managed. Mygirl has elbow dysplasia and was diagnosed at 7 months as well. Her weight then was around 22kg as welland she now weighs in between 24.5 to 25kg. Their shape is more important than the weight and they should be slim, with a nice tummy tuck and you should be able to feel the ribs when running your hand down their side with light pressure. I wouldn't geed the chapatti in the evening, just her dried food for now. If you feed any dog treats reduce the food intake amount. Let us know how you get on tomorrow
     
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    Meloxicam/Metacam is a very good anti-inflammatory medication that will help to relieve pain. It's very good that you have this for her.

    With the food she is getting I would replace the chapati bread with the dog food. So, stop giving her chapatis. That isn't a nutritious food for dogs. The proper dog food (Drools Focus) you are feeding her should be fine although it's not a brand I'm familiar with.

    It's very good that you are trying to keep her slim, not fat. It's hard to say exactly how much food she needs though, because that depends on her height and build and also on what is in the food. The best thing is to be guided by how much fat is over her ribs. You don't really want to be able to see her ribs, but it should be easy to feel them when you run your hands down her sides. When you see the next vet ask them to show you how to tell if she is the right weight.
     
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    I looked at the X-ray image and I see what you mean about the hip sockets. Her hip sockets are not well developed at all.

    The good thing is - now you know about this problem and you are able to manage it by keeping her slim and giving her the right medication.

    Did the vet talk to you about what kind of exercise is best for her?
     
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    I am afraid I cannot help you mandeep. I just wanted to wish you and your pup Good Luck. She is very lucky to have such a responsible caring owner.

    I would Echo what the other girls have said, keep the weight off her bones. I know it is difficult when they turn those big Labrador eyes on you, but harden your heart and cut down her food a little. Difficult I know because she is still growing and will have a big appetite.
     
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    I don't have anything to add to the advice about, just welcome to the forum (although it's sad such a problem has brought you here). Wishing you and your pup the best of luck.
     
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    thanks to all, really helped alot and this is extremely helpful forum with nice People..
    @Oberon,
    they only suggested Rest, they said Movement will increase pain,
    but this is the one most Difficult thing, if i keep her Join with Leash, then she tries to Get out and also jumps, which is so dangerous,
    but if keep her free, then it would not call as "rest"

    btw, is there any Case where Dog also have same situation like my puppy have,
    will the Joint will never come into socket by years for years?
    the Vet said Dog have ability to fix the situation,
    he said the Bones are try to make contact with socket by Building structure,
    he said because in xray Blurry Part of Bone are Developing bones to catch the joint,
    i dont know, its very Expert language, i didnt understood much,
    anyways, i hope there will some light tomorrow..
    im also giving her Tumeric and Ginger(thats natural Remedies to reduce pain and infection)

    Can anyone give me link that shows same position which my dog have,
    i also seen some link from google but they are not like our situation,
     
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    Oh how stressful for you, I don't have anything to add as you have been given plenty of good advice. I just wanted to wish you well. X
     
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    I'm not a vet, just a pet owner, but what I'd expect is that your dog's muscles will try to develop to compensate for the lack of a proper hip joint. Basically, her muscles and ligaments will be providing stability to her hips, rather than the bony socket. You can't see it on X-rays, but hip joints are surrounded and supported by lots of muscle and other kinds of connective tissue that kind of wrap around or encase the joint. So it's not like the end of her thigh bone is just floating there as it appears in the X-ray. It is surrounded by strong muscle that is supporting the joint.

    I would expect that if you took X-rays in a year's time the bone would look a bit different. The socket may well develop extra growth. But this growth would probably be irregular, and not smooth and neat. To be honest, it is not likely to ever resemble a normal hip joint. But I would not become worried about that. Dogs do learn to cope quite well with what nature gave them. The important thing is that your dog is not in pain - the medication that your vet has given you will help very much with that.

    Adding some ginger and turmeric to her food is ok - there is nothing wrong with doing that. But, I'm sorry, I would not expect it to make much of a difference. Do not worry though - the medication that the vet has provided will make a difference.

    Is there anywhere you can take your dog where she can swim? Swimming is wonderful exercise for hip dysplasia as it strengthens the muscles without putting any pressure on the joints.

    I'm glad you are feeling a bit better about it all. It is a big shock, and there is a lot to try to understand, and you are worried about your dog. But usually things turn out much better than we think they might. If there is anything you are not sure about, definitely make a time to talk with the vet, and ask all the questions you want. It helps if you have information and are not left feeling confused and unsure about what to expect.

    Are you seeing the government vet tomorrow?
     
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    These are the x-rays of Lilly - they were taken when she was about 10 or 11 months. They are fairly similar to your own x-ray. I'm not sure if the fuzzy right hip "ball" on your x-ray is maybe just an out of focus area, because if that was irregular bone I think your dog would be in an awful lot of pain.
    I am not a vet either, just giving information on what I know.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajtp8daci2sdw7z/Lilly's hips.jpg?dl=0

    Its really important you keep your dog light and slim and keep her exercising and strengthening her muscles, but be guided with what your vets tell you.
    Lilly had been on rest whilst we were waiting for a diagnosis (our own vet thought it was her knee) but the specialist told us to gradually increase her walking, on lead, from 5 mins twice a day up to an hour twice a day, but only increasing by 5 minutes every week. That helped to strengthen her hip muscles, as did taking her to swim in a pool (initially with a flotation vest).

    I hope you get on well with your vet tomorrow (?today)
     
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    Hi,first of all thanks to you all is not enough, Proud that there are great people on the earth..
    i visited Government Vet University,the Doctor wasnt available, was busy in Surgery, they told me to wait for 4 days,
    But Many People Suggested me to not to visit this hospital, they said they are very careless and not much experienced.
    but i will visit will listen what they think,
    there's one more UPDATE,
    there is Big Vet in our Location, popular in Our Country,
    he was also Champion of Horse Riding,
    its listened to that he treated and fixed those issue where other Vets declined to see,
    i visted yesterday, he checked his Heartbeat and he suddenly told that, "why you gave her Slippery Surface and why you didnt stopped her to Climb Stairs?"
    i said what is her deciese?
    he said She have Rickets(something like he said)
    he said due to Rickets, Weak bones and Extremely Week Muscles arent allowing to Fit the Ball in the Socket,
    he said She have HUGE COW HOCK LEGS, yes she have,
    he told me to come everyday for 7 days, her clinic is 20 km far away :p
    he also gave me a Big Bottle of Cyrup, it have Vitamin B, D2,D3, Gulucosamine,etc
    he said it will take 3 months to correct,
    i think i should keep this medication,
    i would also visit University, will collect many Opinions,



     
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    erm, i have no "edit post" permission, i was writing,

    @oberon,
    thanks again
    you gave me Extremely Useful Info,
    you Should Vet, you can Become Great Vet, wow
    Doctor also told me same, he said me that you gave her Too low excersize and Wrong diet Plus you gave her Slippery Tiles and stairs,
    that is your Gift,
    he also said, her legs are extremely Cow hocked, (yes she have),
    he told that she have Rickets and Due to improper Growth and Weekest Muscles arent are made to keep the Ball in the Socket,
    Big thanks, really Great People with Great Forum.

    @drjs@5
    thanks,
    im still trying to find Swimming pool, but really hard,
    i also do JOB, really hard to find..
     
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    oh man, again i was writing,im sorry wasnt meant to spam,
    @drjs@5
    thanks for Xray, after seeing xray, this made my stress out,
    she can live Happy, i would not give up, from now i would give her Exercise to maintain her Body,
    you guys are really intelligent, guided me extremely Well..
     

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