The Art and Science of Canine Behaviour - part one

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  1. Boogie

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    Having had two Lab/GR pups now and observed many of them at puppy class, I find them a much easier 'breed' than pure Labs. They have the intelligence of GRs and the enthusiasm of Labs - which is a fabulous combination.

    The pure Labs at puppy class are much more pully/loopy than the Lab/GRs 'tho just as many go on to graduate as guide dogs as the crosses do.
     
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    Rodents are mammals too, y'know ;)
     
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  4. JulieT

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    Great.....anymore votes for emotions in dogs and hamsters?????
     
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  6. bbrown

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    You're talking about exceptional quality though aren't you? A show dog is one that's shown as a working dog is one that's worked.

    I wonder if there's more opportunity to work than show and that skews perspective slightly as to how many working and show dogs there are. Also a dog that works and a dog that's well trained are not necessarily the same thing ;)

    Riley is a working dog but even with an exceptional trainer I think he would be unlikely to win a trial. With me he's unlikely to even get in the awards at a test. A good trainer wouldn't have hung on to him as he doesn't have enough drive and isn't bold enough.
     
  7. JulieT

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    Oh yes, of course. It's always possible to get just about any dog placed say 4th in a class of 4, or 2 in a class of 2, at a local/small show - you could show any dog. I mean dogs that would be in with a shot at top 3 in champion show awards.
     
  8. JulieT

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    Surely a good trainer is a trainer that gets the most out of a dog in line with its abilities? Maybe we could go further and say if a trainer just moves a dog on whenever s/he encounters a problem that would take a long time to solve, they will end up being good trainers of good dogs.

    And the trainer that works her/his way through problems, learning as they go, ends up the better trainer?
     
  9. bbrown

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    I think that's true.

    When you have limited spaces for dogs though and your business/reputation relies on success you want to start off with the right raw material. I don't doubt some successful gundog trainers would do a better job of turning Riley into a gundog they would just choose not to as he won't do well enough to justify the effort. A bit like people who show dogs will sell on dogs that won't make the grade and hang on to the rest. I think in both spheres you see a reasonable amount of dogs kept til 6 months or so for breeders to make final choices as well as professional handlers running dogs on behalf of owners in both show and field.
     
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    Hard to imagine for pet owners like us, isn't it? I mean, our dogs are members of our family, we couldn't sell them on if they don't make the grade.
     
  11. JulieT

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    I find it difficult to imagine, yes.
     
  12. bbrown

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    I've seen it often enough now not to find it hard to imagine but there's no way that would ever be happening in our house :D
     
  13. JulieT

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    I was thinking....might you pop Obi into a few shows? Wouldn't it be interesting to see how he'd do in the show ring? I know, I know....but...just for fun?
     
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    If his heelwork was ever up to it I'd consider it. I'm not sure my coiffing skills are up to it let alone my ringcraft !!
     
  15. bbrown

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    Don't say it too loudly but Ziggy is a dual purpose Clumber ;) eh heidrun.....
     
  16. JulieT

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    What????!!!! I think we should be told....:D:D:D
     
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    I was trying to keep that very quite. Thanks Barbara!
     
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    You can't leave it there.
     
  19. bbrown

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    Sorry :(
     
  20. JulieT

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    Oh well......now the cat is out of the bag and all that, give us the low down heidrun? Any pics? :):) You may as well....it's not like it's shameful to win in the show ring with a lovely dog! :D:D:D
     

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