I am really losing the plot, I cannot find your lovely explanation on your take re training the stop whistle : sorry!
Re: BARBARA - I can't find it!!! So this is all my opinion and specific to Riley and I. For me sit and stop are the same thing. I blow one fairly long peep and it means put your bum on the floor. The challenge lies in getting that peep to mean that no matter what the dog is doing or where he is! So to start it is a sit whistle by my side when I have also stopped. Then it's a sit from heel but I keep moving....then I add speed...you're getting picture by now This whistle ALWAYS means put your bum on the floor so I could blow this peep whenever I want a sit, kerbside or gates would be fine by my rules. My next challenge is getting the dog to sit at a distance. First I waited til Riley was bumbling around, then he'd check on me and I'd ask for a sit. Then I have slowly added complexity....movement, distance etc I don't stop Riley on a recall very often as it makes his recall uncertain. I also don't pretend to put a dummy down as I am still building his trust that he will always find something if I send him. I have used a dummy where an assistant can beat Riley to the dummy if he doesn't stop. This is different as he can clearly see the dummy but isn't allowed it. I also stand between Riley and the dummy and stop him. His reward for doing either of these is another dummy thrown out to the side. That's an overview of what we do and I've taken a lot of advice.....sometimes a suggested method isn't a good fit for your dog so I would always say do what works for you....there are quite a lot of different ways to do this
Re: BARBARA - I can't find it!!! Thank you very much Barbara, I really need to get a full nights sleep
Re: BARBARA - I can't find it!!! Thanks for asking for that repeat Helen and thanks Barbara. Still working on the stop whistle so a refresher without asking very helpful. We've got the sit to whistle and sit walking to heel. Bit stuck on the sit while I keep moving. ??? Jen
Re: BARBARA - I can't find it!!! Hi Jen ,go back to Pippa doing it with Rachael ,she shows you how to build up just doing the tiniest steps...
Re: BARBARA - I can't find it!!! [quote author=Jen link=topic=3301.msg35788#msg35788 date=1384590230] Thanks for asking for that repeat Helen and thanks Barbara. Still working on the stop whistle so a refresher without asking very helpful. We've got the sit to whistle and sit walking to heel. Bit stuck on the sit while I keep moving. ??? Jen [/quote] That is great Jen, I obviously need to do more work, I've only got the sit at about 5 mtrs but haven't even attempted to heel and as for while moving Note to self, do more training Helen
Re: BARBARA - I can't find it!!! Good plan Angela will do that. Do you mean Charlie sits 5 mtrs away from you when told Helen ? That's brill. Is it with the whistle? At the moment while walking to heel I peep the whistle then keep walking on the spot or few steps back then forwards so I'm not actually still but they are still sort of by me. Looks a bit daft and not sure if it will actually help. Might try walking away facing like when first started sitstay. It's a bit like the quandary you had about using a clicker and getting it wrong Helen (I still wonder if I click wrong ) changing a training technique to suit worries me incase I make things worse. Oh well trial and error. If you find a method that works let me know. ;D
Re: BARBARA - I can't find it!!! Helen I've just remembered something that might help you although you've probably seen it or know it. If you go to the clicker training section (sorry don't know how to do links ) I started a thread called stop! Pippa posted links to her video of training rachael and exercises to teach stopping at distance. Hope that helps sorry if you already know it. Jen Ps. Pippa doesn't use a clicker for the stop whistle I was asking if you could.
