Biting Puppies: Help For New Puppy Parents

Discussion in 'Labrador Puppies' started by pippa@labforumHQ, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. pippa@labforumHQ

    pippa@labforumHQ Administrator

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,513
  2. Jade

    Jade Registered Users

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2018
    Messages:
    679
    Location:
    USA
    So what are the positive ways to effectively manage the biting?
     
    gracehatter likes this.
  3. pippa@labforumHQ

    pippa@labforumHQ Administrator

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,513
    I'll go over that again Jade and see what I have missed out
     
    Jade likes this.
  4. pippa@labforumHQ

    pippa@labforumHQ Administrator

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,513
    Hopefully that is clearer now :)
     
    Jade likes this.
  5. Jade

    Jade Registered Users

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2018
    Messages:
    679
    Location:
    USA
    @pippa@labforumHQ
    Thank you so much. Such helpful information. I will definitely save this to refer to when we bring Remy home.
     
    Deboragh and pippa@labforumHQ like this.
  6. lucy@labforumHQ

    lucy@labforumHQ Administrator Forum Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    960
    There is a great video here that helps to illustrate this:
     
  7. Diane Davies

    Diane Davies Registered Users

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Messages:
    3
    I have had my 9 week old pup for exactly 1 week and I am at my wits end, I feel I have made the biggest mistake ever. My previous lab died aged 14 last year, I cannot remember ever feeling like this with her. I thought I had prepared well, I have read so much on puppy training but in reality I am not getting anywhere with her. She howls if she is left alone for more than a minute so I now sleep in the same room as her. I have training pads in the kitchen for her to use, which she will use if we are sat in the room. If we are in the lounge she will just wee an poo wherever she wants to. As for biting and nipping it is just constant, when I say no she just flies at me and comes back for more. I was so looking forward to bringing this beautiful pup home, but now I almost resent her. Then I feel incredibly guilty because she is just a baby and I hate feeling this way. I am in tears as I write this, please help I am desperate.
     
  8. pippa@labforumHQ

    pippa@labforumHQ Administrator

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,513
    Hi Diana, these early days are really hard and it's common to feel overwhelmed. The biting will subside but you need to be consistent and calm - even when you don't feel it :) Here's a more detailed guide to dealing with the biting

    The howling when left alone is because she is scared. If you put a crate next to your bed until she is happy and settled in your new home, you'll find it easier to sleep and she'll settle in quicker. You can move the crate later if you want to. Here is some information on teaching your puppy to be alone without howling

    Pooping in the lounge is also normal at nine weeks she has very little control over where and when she goes. If possible use baby gates to keep your puppy on washable floors and take her outside or to her puppy pads very frequently indeed so that she starts to learn that is the right place to go. You can find more toilet training info on the main site using that link

    Let us know how you get on!
     
    Vastav Bansal likes this.
  9. Debbie

    Debbie Registered Users

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2018
    Messages:
    20
    Hi Diane, boy do I know how you feel! My puppy is now 17 weeks old and I feel like I aged 10 years already. My puppy is a terrible biter too. It started almost as soon as we got him and is unfortunately still going strong. He was really really difficult from 11-14 weeks, then we saw some improvement with biting. But his 17th week is as bad as ever. His adult teeth are coming in now, looks like about 8 so far. Hopefully this is why the increase again. Potty training was super easy for us, was going to the door to go out in his 9th week. Since then only about 5 accidents due to us not seeing him in front of door. This took total vigilance and I don’t have any children at home that I have tend to. This forum is wonderful, lots of very helpful people with good advice or just kind words to put everything in perspective. Just about everything that you need help with is in here. BTW I seriously considered giving the puppy back to the breeder as others on here have too. I’m hopeful the good times are just around the corner. I also shed a lot of tears thru serious cuts, bruises and lots of torn clothes.
     
    GaBoo, ChewyNev, Aileen Buick and 2 others like this.
  10. Diane Davies

    Diane Davies Registered Users

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Messages:
    3
    Thank you for responding Debbie I know I am not alone in feeling this way. I feel that things are going from bad to worse no matter how much I try. If I could get one thing right I would feel a bit more hopeful. I have now contacted a puppy trainer to see if they can teach us both.
     
  11. Diane Davies

    Diane Davies Registered Users

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Messages:
    3
    Thank you Pippa, I am trying to be calmer with her when she bites because if I shout at her she lunges at me and tries to bite more aggressively. So I am making her behaviour worse. I understand that she is scared at night and doesn't like to be alone, so one of us has slept downstairs with her since the first night and in fairness to her she will then sleep in her bed most of the night without any problems. I just can't see how I am ever going to get her to sleep in her bed in the kitchen because the minute I close the baby gate day or night she starts to howl. This also contributes to the toilet training because the puppy pads are in the kitchen leading to the back door. If I sit in the kitchen with her she will always use the pads and I always reward her for doing so. Being behind the baby gate stresses her out immensely. I've never used a crate before but would happily buy one if it would help. I feel so sad and desperate.
     
    Aileen Buick and Jade like this.
  12. Jade

    Jade Registered Users

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2018
    Messages:
    679
    Location:
    USA
    as for the biting i don't have the answer but I would highly recommend the crate.Get one that is just high enough for her to stand on all fours. Put the crate next to your bed every night.
    I do this for our 10 week old and he sleeps all through the night. Not a peep from him.
     
  13. Amy

    Amy Registered Users

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2018
    Messages:
    3
    That’s really useful information thanks for that. We have a 15 week old puppy who is a massive biter. I have started noticing a pattern that he is worse when tired, when my 2 year old is hyper or too noisy or the pup is too excited so we crate him for a few minutes until he is calm or if tired we allow him to sleep. Luckily the biting is less now but hurts a lot more than when he was smaller!! He now likes to cuddle up which is better than he used to be!

    It is so reassuring to know it is normal as I am getting fed up of people telling me how I should respond to him. How he is an aggressive dog and how we aren’t training him properly and how he should be trained. I was starting to think that they were right.
     
    Noora and Aileen Buick like this.
  14. Harley Sue

    Harley Sue Registered Users

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    32
    Location:
    New Jersey, USA
     
  15. Harley Sue

    Harley Sue Registered Users

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    32
    Location:
    New Jersey, USA
    Hi! Just read your post from August, and want to know how the biting is now that's it's 2 months later. My 13 week old has been biting very hard for the 6 weeks I've had her. Drawing blood, ripping skin and clothing. Nothing makes it any better. I spent the better paet of the morning crying. Lack of sleep, and the chaos, and pain has finally gotten the better of me. Do you have any suggestions or good news to share? Thank you!
     
    Aileen Buick likes this.
  16. Mango

    Mango Registered Users

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2018
    Messages:
    83
    Location:
    Ljubljana, Slovenia
    I remember those days. Mango was awfull. Every time I came close to him, I was bleeding from a different spot. Even putting on a harness was dangerous for me.
    He is now 7 months and I can't say he has completely stopped.
    It did get A LOT better at around 15 weeks. Since then, he hasn't bit me hard enough to penetrate the skin.
    So, I guess you just have to wait for the pup to grow out of it. And I know how hard it is, it takes 24/7, but try to keep the pup occupied. Anything....snuffle mats are great, I did't have one, so I just hid kibble in my old flis hoodie. Also snack balls distract them, Kongs, ropes, cardboard boxes, plastic bottles....anything that comes to mind and will keep him away from your hands
     
    Janclu, Wiley0501 and Harley Sue like this.
  17. Harley Sue

    Harley Sue Registered Users

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    32
    Location:
    New Jersey, USA
     
  18. Harley Sue

    Harley Sue Registered Users

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    32
    Location:
    New Jersey, USA
    Thank you so much! I'll add your kibble hiding idea to my skin saving techniques! anything to get thru this phase, safely!
     
  19. Adamf

    Adamf Registered Users

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2018
    Messages:
    25
    Thanks to everyone who posted in this forum. It is very informative and it is certainly a relief to know that my puppy (Romeo) isn't uniquely aggressive and bitey.

    I've read everything here and there is lots of good advice. I'm hesitant to ask a question because it seems the answers are already here, but honesty, I still feel I need something more. My puppy is going after my wife and daughter more than he goes after me. He's a lab mix, but we aren't exactly sure what the mix part is. Some have suggested he's part, Pointer, Blue-heeler, Great Dane or crocodile. Here are my questions?

    1. There seems to be an order to his biting. My daughter (18 years old) seems to get it the worst. My wife gets it the "second worst." I seem to have the least problems with the biting, but I still contend with it like everyone else. Does the fact that the puppy seems to play more roughly with younger people indicate anything? Could this provide some clue to ease the biting period?

    2. The puppy nips at ankles and feet frequently, particularly with my daughter. Some have suggested that this indicates he is part Blue-heeler, because Blue-heelers are herding dogs. Is this true?

    3. I'm finding this difficult to deal with, particularly because the primary targets of his biting are my wife and daughter. It is easy for me to say, "it is just a phase," but they are the ones dealing with the actual biting. I feel I need to do something more immediate, and I'd like to ask for opinions. I've been given two suggestions, but I'm skeptical about both of them.

    3a. This suggestion comes from someone who has won awards for training dogs. He suggests that when the puppy bites, hold him by the muzzle and push his lip into his teeth until he experiences some pain and then release. This trainer claims that it makes the dog aware that his teeth can hurt. If this advice didn't come from someone who has success with training dogs, I would dismiss it entirely because it sounds brutal. But I know this trainer. In all respects, he is a decent and responsible person with a good reputation for handling dogs. I can't help but consider his suggestion. What do you think?

    3b. My wife and daughter have suggested a spray bottle with water. Squirting the dog with water seems harmless enough, but I get the sense that if this was actually a good idea, more people would be using it. I'm not a fan of negative reinforcement if positive reinforcement can be more effective, but the biting is intolerable, so I have to consider everything. What are the draw-backs of occasionally skirting a dog with water as a form of negative reinforcement?

    Thanks so much for any advice.
     
  20. Jade

    Jade Registered Users

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2018
    Messages:
    679
    Location:
    USA
    If it were me I wouldn't do either of things. They are a bit cruel. The puppy is not biting to be aggressive or vicious. He's just a baby and this a stage they go through. Our pup is 19 weeks and he still is a bit bitey but 90% better. We just keep directing him to a toy every time. Eventually he gets it.
    Maybe start your own thread in the Puppy section which seems to get the most attention. I'm one of the trainers here can help.
     
    Adamf likes this.

Share This Page