crate soiling?

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  1. sophmiller

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    Suddenly (aged 16 weeks) Lucca has started pooping in his crate at night. he has been fine since day 1 but this has happened for the last few nights and I'm wondering what to do about it-
    it may be a dodgy tummy (the one just now was VERY messy and everywhere- Sunday morning joy for me!) but my concern is that it will become a habit? Will it? what should I do? As a mum of 2 humans in addition to a pup I don't have it in me to get up repeatedly at night for the dog… he was taken out at 11pm and by 6.20 had soiled.

    What do I need to do? Chicken and rice?

    thanks :)
    Sophie and Lucca 16 weeks!
     
  2. Jane Martin

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    Re: crate soiling?

    It might be an upset tummy. Your puppy just couldn't hold it. I only had this with Chepi when she had Giardia. I am not suggesting your pup has this but if the poo is mushy or worse today maybe a call to the vet is needed tomorrow. I don't believe this will be a habit now but obviously a thorough clean will help. I have heard chicken and rice is good; I didn't get to try it as my pup went off food during her exploding poo period.
    Lots of TLC and monitor poo today, I think. You could miss 1 meal to allow the tummy to empty and rest. Best of luck :)
     
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    If it's a sudden change ,I would suspect an upset tummy bug for sure....
    I'd give chicken and rice for her meals today in small mushy portions and watch to see he is drinking and taking fluids.....And see how he goes.He's only still very young so if you have any doubt at all I'd go to the vet....it's been a couple of days ( nights by the sounds of it?)
    And I know it's hard when you have a young family but getting up to do a sooner toilet break might help you out and prevent mess just until he settles down......Dexter could go from 10.30 to 5 am at 5 months .....he probably could have gone longer but we just didn't experiment as those times fitted in with what his breeder advised us and how life was at the time x
     
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    Re: crate soiling?

    If it has started out of the blue as others have said it could be an upset tummy, and until it resolves you might have to get up either in the night or earlier in the morning for a couple of days to let him out, otherwise you could have a nice a present in the mornings!

    The other thing to think about is how late he is eating in the evenings - has he had sufficient time to 'empty' himself before he goes to bed? Think about what time he has his last meal and if he gets any treats or bones after that as that could upset his toilet schedule especially when young.
     
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    Re: crate soiling?

    what time would you do your last feed for a pup of that age?
    I'm thinking it might actually be a combo of tummy upset change of food and too many of those Antos toothbrush shaped chews (perfect storm??)

    I will make chicken and rice today and get up for a middle of the night let out too.


    thanks :)
     
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    Poor boy, I hope it clears up quickly.

    It's not right to have a pup poo in his crate and you are right to be concerned about it becoming a habit. It's unpleasant for them, and it also gets them used to pooing where they sleep. This destroys the instinct not to soil their den, which you need to be able to house train them (and maintain that house training).

    If you can't get up during the night, or your dog can't tell you they need you during the night, then I think you need to have a crate/pen arrangement where the crate is inside a pen and the dog can get quite far away from his sleeping spot in order to have a poo in an emergency.
     
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    Re: crate soiling?

    How long would this have to go on for it to be habit forming?
     
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    That's really difficult to say - as long as it took for your pup to get used to it happening, I suppose. Exposure to poo, ie being confined where their own poo is, can also encourage them to start eating it (yuk, sorry). So many, many reasons to avoid it if at all possible.
     
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    Chicken and rice should help. Keep him on it for 24 hours then slowly reintroduce his food. If his stools are still really squidgy I would put a quick call in to the vets just to be safe. Fingers crossed he is better tonight x
     
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    Ah bless him. Sounds like a one off. 24hrs of chicken and rice fingers crossed he is back to normal :)
     
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    When Bailey had his explosive poop! ( immediately came on here for advice!) he was lethargic and uninterested quick pop to vets gave him magic injection , had chicken and white fish and rice 4 48 hrs, then all was well good luckx
     
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    Sounds more like an urgency issue. You should take a stool sample in to your vet to have it checked. Our little girl had cow pies for a few days. Turned out to be a common parasite. Few days on meds and she was fine.
     
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    all back to normal now, chicken and rice for 4 days and now back onto Lilys kitchen tinned food.
    phew.
    He does like cow-cake though and we have cows right next to us (one in the garden this morning :-\ ) doing my best to discourage the eating of the cake…
    A few friends have said their dogs get runny poo after drinking sea water and we walk on the beach most days too...
     
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    [quote author=sophmiller link=topic=8223.msg118254#msg118254 date=1413735852]

    A few friends have said their dogs get runny poo after drinking sea water and we walk on the beach most days too...
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    My friends 2 dogs were dreadfully ill after we'd been to beach ,her spaniel ended up on a drip in the vets for the afternoon from drinking up too much water and ingesting sand chasing his tennis ball.Dexter is always a bit runny after a sea swim ,but he is quite easily upset.i don't know they eat some horrible things :eek:
     
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    Palm oil leashes up on some beaches which if eaten gives dogs pancreatitis. I do keep a close eye on him when we are there for that reason :(
     
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    Hahaha, Sophmiller. I just clued into your post now. We use "cowpies" to describe the poo, not the food that might have caused it. :) Guess I'll have to take some courses on British as a second language. I'm probably missing out on a lot of things.
     
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    [quote author=chrism link=topic=8223.msg118636#msg118636 date=1413859789]
    Hahaha, Sophmiller. I just clued into your post now. We use "cowpies" to describe the poo, not the food that might have caused it. :) Guess I'll have to take some courses on British as a second language. I'm probably missing out on a lot of things.
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    Might not help you Chrism.
    I think she means the cow poop :p
     
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    i do indeed mean the 'pies' the cow makes! The cow poop, aka 'cow-cake'
    horses make 'horse-biscuits'
    :)
     
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    Re: crate soiling?

    That had me confused too! Animal feeds are often referred to as 'cake' as in 'dairy cake' (food for dairy cows) We call cow poop 'cow-pats' here in hampshire - I've never heard of cow dung being called cake or horse dung being called biscuits! :) :)
     

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