Hip Dysplasia

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  1. JulieT

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    [quote author=Dexter link=topic=3890.msg46266#msg46266 date=1389507672]
    What are thoughts on giving your dog Omega Oils anyway regardless of hip/joint condition?Would Dexter benefit in later life if I started giving him some now?
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    I don't know - interested to hear views too. I'm just starting looking into this because we've got to guard against arthritis (because of the op). Yumove has been recommended to me by 2 other owners who have dogs with ligament injuries. My vet says that once you start supplements, you should do it for life, you lose the impact if you stop.

    If you are feeding Royal Canin (but I think a different version from the one I use) you might already be giving glucosamine and chondroitin.
     
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    Lady has ED (operated on 12 months ago and now fine thank goodness) and the vet and surgeon both said give her Green Shell Mussel extract. They said it works and just use the human stuff and the human dose.
     
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    I've just caught up with this shell. I'm so sorry poor willow.

    I've used CSJ calm down herbs (you asked that question ages ago) with my two because they are very nervous of strangers.

    It's difficult to say how well it works. A few weeks after starting it they did let a visitor, man they'd never met, stoke them and they improved with people visiting ig general.

    If I was you I'd go on CSJ web site and e mail them. Tell them willows problem and ask about calm down. They also do herbal supplements for joints and pain. They may be able to recommend food aswell.

    Although obviously they are trying to sell their product I have found them very helpful and honest. For example they told me calm down could help with my dogs but if I worked on desensitising them I could then stop the herbs.

    I hope everything goes well

    Jen
     
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    Dear Clare jus as u said abt Charlie even Cooper keeps his hind legs too close to each other and too tight and tat is affecting his sitting position to whenever he sits his body sways to the side and he rests on the other leg but neverthless im correcting it and also made a progress in getting him to give a handshake :p :p :p :p and he loves doing it i wanna knw one thing abt his tail its not as high as it should be as i have seen in the video Charlie"s tail is lifted high up wat abt Cooper as For omerga three oils it will benefit dexter definetly and his gud for his skin and coat...Shell don wry im happy Willow has found you and will definitely grow up to be a lovely dog (supermodel ofcourse) :p :p :p
     
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    i wanna knw one thing abt his tail its not as high as it should be as i have seen in the video Charlie"s tail is lifted high up
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    In the video Charlie is carrying his tail a little higher than normal, because he is happy and excited to be playing with the other dog.
     
  6. drjs@5

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    I couldn't find any of the original footage of Lilly around the time she was diagnosed, but I have uploaded some recent ones onto YouTube - I am not sure whether they are much different to dogs who DON'T have HD but they might be interesting to see. Unless you are particularly interested, you might find paint drying as stimulating.
    Please excuse any incidence of squeaky voices in the background (that would be me)

    This first one shows Lilly moseying around in the field eating (probably ::) ) frosted rape seed plant-lets. I think it shows a bit of the tightness described, but also the arching of the lower spine which I notice she does a lot. I'm not sure whether that would be related to the HD.
    http://youtu.be/cA6_Jk0BwKI

    These other two are from a beach trip - not sure if one of them has maybe been posted before.
    http://youtu.be/4IBo94zkEQ0
    http://youtu.be/oUQtkTN0Ff8
    As you see, it doesn't much hinder her chasing around on the beach, but it does show bunny-hoping - I really can't decide whether this is any worse than Charlie's bunny-hopping though.
     
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    How old is she on the first video? Think I need to put Amy on a diet! :-\
     
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    Umm...the first one? In the field?
    That was yesterday.
    She has long legs and she weighs 24-25kg - she is deliberately light because of the HD Jade - don't panic!
     
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    Phew! Amy was 25kg 4 weeks ago. I Was panicking a bit, because I was talking to a dog walker who told me Amy would get fat with having chicken. So I got paranoid that he thought she already was!
     
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    Thanks very much for posting these - I've been studying them carefully! Will keep watching... paint drying, on the other hand, has already exhausted any interest I might have ever had.... have re-painted too many quarters magnolia before moving out!

    Looking at Lilly's turn of speed and obvious enjoyment of running is really positive - shows just how well a case of HD can be managed if it's not too severe. Yes, she's slender, but she looks good on it!
    Clare
     
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    have re-painted too many quarters magnolia before moving out!
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    I'm sure ours where always battleship grey when I was a child ;D
     
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    [quote author=ClareJ link=topic=3890.msg46865#msg46865 date=1389642524]
    have re-painted too many quarters magnolia before moving out!
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    I'm sure ours where always battleship grey when I was a child ;D
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    In the "olden days" we didn't have to do the painting - done in-between residents. We did, however, have very tasteful (not) seat covers. Psychedelic green flower print was the most memorable :-X
     
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    I think my mum wished she could paint but no, battleship grey it was. I'm sure I remember some dubious prints in the soft furnishings and LOTS of scratchy man-made fibres :D
     
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    110% Nylon - all mod cons - nothing but the best
     
  15. ClareJ

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    Battleship grey?! Must have been a naval thing... suppose we should be grateful that the army don't do camouflage. ;) It's the curtains you have to love. We had some in one place with giant poppies - we christened them the heart transplant curtains.

    I appreciate many people love light, neutral walls - I however have a nervous twitch when faced with too much magnolia. It's always such a casual paint job in a quarter too, with magnolia splashed on skirtings and door trims, or painted over tiled windowsills... Gives a great finish when it lifts off in clumps the first time you ever stand anything on the windowsill.

    My girls are now allowed one feature wall in their bedrooms - Rose had the most beautiful teal colour in her last bedroom, but it took me 5 coats of magnolia to paint over it... All has to be done before the house can be handed back these days...
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    I have been left with a nervous twitch when faced with having to even think about [size=8pt]wallpaper[/size]
    All my walls are still magnolia....or cream....I can cope with painted anaglypta..... ;D
     
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    All my walls are still magnolia....or cream....I can cope with painted anaglypta..... ;D
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    Hee hee... I tell the girls that one day, I'll probably paint everything cream. But that will be when it's my choice, and not just how everything comes! ;D
    Clare
     
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    Getting back on topic......(I'm like this in meetings too :D you would hate to work with me... ;) )
    We were told Lilly's hips were actually quite severe.
    These are her x-rays - taken at around 10months old I think, so they aren't fully developed I imagine. Lochan's mum might be able to tell you more about x-rays. Best I can say is that the round ball of the hip is not snug in the sockets
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    This is an example of normal dog hips -
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    from - http://fhoguide.com/FHO-hip-problems.php

    you can see the big red arrow pointing to the hip ball more snug in the joint. The green arrow is related to taking a good x-ray I think - this second x-ray is off the web and hopefully ok to post - I will remove it if anyone thinks I should.

    Don't know if this is a help to anyone or a bit too technical
     
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    Ooh, now that is interesting to see... and even better then to consider how well she does!

    Off topic is interesting too ;)
    Clare
     
  20. Lynette

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    Hi - sorry Ive missed all these posts but Ive notbeen online for a month now ...

    Shell - our 2 pups at 6 months have just gone through 3 operations on 3 legs and wait a final hip replacement on the fourth - I dont want to alarm you but they were diagnosed with HD and ED in all 4 legs and the severity was as bad as it could have been. We have seen pioneering surgeon Noel Fitzpatrick who has basically saved their lives, their hips and elbows were so badly deformed that we had no option but to go ahead with the operations a week post diagnosis in late Nov last year.

    There is a post with our journey on it from diagnosis through if you are interested but I wanted to reassure you that although it is terrible news the options if caught early are really good and can result in a completely normal life - we are told that we have the hope of a decade with our girls post op and obv ops are only needed in severe cases. Better to see a specialist and get the right diagnosis early to avoid further damage ...

    If you have any questions do feel free to ask me as we are in the thick of this journey at the moment. Sending you lots of good wishes xx
     

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