Lab Colours VS Temperament

Discussion in 'Behavioural science and dog training philosophy' started by IanT, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. JulieT

    JulieT Registered Users

    Jun 15, 2013
    It is an interesting article! Although....he misses out the bit where the fox red colour came to an end in working line dogs and was revived from show lines....and the Chocolate gene goes all the way back to the very first foundation dogs of the modern Labrador. It didn't just "appear" in the 1930s, Chocolate dogs are recorded well before then, I believe.

    I'll just add a caveat that I looked this up well over a year ago now, and I'm recalling these points (I haven't checked my notes again).
  2. MaccieD

    MaccieD Guest

    From articles I've read 2 "liver" coloured puppies were born in 1892 at the earl of Buccleuch's kennels, probably sired by Buccleuch Avon, the sire of many dogs that are chocolate or carry the chocolate gene.

    I also read somewhere that breeders used to cull the chocolate puppies in a litter as they were "undesirable", but I can't find where I read that.
  3. Boogie

    Boogie Moderator

    Mar 29, 2014
    I asked for a fox-red boy for my next pup, but I was told I can only ask for black, yellow or choccy - if I ask for yellow I may get a fox red.

  4. Cherry

    Cherry Registered Users

    Apr 9, 2016
    Berkshire, UK
    Just read this with interest as since becoming a lab owner I've heard fox reds are aggressive and chocolates harder to train. Opinions about yellow and black seem to be similar though (lovely dogs).
  5. MaccieD

    MaccieD Guest

    I've had 2 yellow girls and a chocolate girl and have to say there has been no difference in trainability or temperament :)
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  6. Cath

    Cath Supporting Member Forum Supporter

    Jan 17, 2015
    I don't think anyone has told the dogs what colour they are. I have always had black Labs and my niece yellow and they have all been lovely trainable dogs.
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  7. IanT

    IanT Registered Users

    Oct 29, 2015
    Hi Team - completely forgot i wrote this last year - thought i would give you an update.

    Billy has come along leaps and bounds - still very very timid & barky with people - however its more to do with him challenging him "you know the type - walk straight up, comments on how good and jams their into his face = growls and backing away' instead of of waiting for him to step forward and engage.
    Still a little wary of men but will follow them when on the lead.

    Will give you an update next week when his sister arrives.
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  8. Oberon

    Oberon Moderator Forum Supporter

    Mar 6, 2013
    Canberra, Australia
    Thanks for the update :) Hope all goes well next week.
  9. Beanwood

    Beanwood Moderator Forum Supporter

    Jan 28, 2014
    Great update! Sounds like he is doing really well, look forward to the update when his sister arrives...are you keeping her or is it just a visit? pretty please! :)
  10. Ski-Patroller

    Ski-Patroller Cooper, Terminally Cute Forum Supporter

    Feb 8, 2016
    Portland, Oregon & Mt Hood Oregon
    We have only had Chocolates. We just like they way they look and all have been very trainable. They have all had different personalities, but all within the normal Lab spectrum. Ginger was a rescue, so we don't know much about her background. Tillys mom was a Chocolate, Master Hunte (Dad was a Black, Field Trial Champion). Both of Coopers parents were Chocolates, Mom was a Senior Hunter, Dad was a Master Hunter. Anyone who says that Chocolates are untrainable or hard to work with has not seen our dogs.
  11. T Reischl

    T Reischl Registered Users

    Jan 2, 2017
    Leland, NC USA
    Murphy is a dark chocolate, auburn in the sunlight. I have seen very few dogs that were more easy going that he is. Training difficulties? More like "what training?" Beyond sit and lay down, nada. He is very outgoing, loves people, dogs and little kids. Is very careful with kids. Does not jump on people or furniture.

    If there is some difference in behavior due to coat color one would have a difficult time proving it to me. :::::shrug:::::

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