MISMARKED LABS

Discussion in 'Labrador breeding & genetics' started by TxJenn, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. TxJenn

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    I've got a mismarked choc and I've done what little research I could find on the genetics behind it. I got her from a breeder, saw the parents, 3 pups out of the 9 were mismarked and they all have heads like the father. I can't find a single vet or trainer that will acknowledge she's a mismark....they all tell me she's NOT full choc.

    Does anyone else have/had one?

    She's papered....should I get genetics testing done so I can tell these professionals to kick rocks? :)

    She's 10mos now and hunts...impressed the trainer for being a mutt!! Haha

    *photo of her as my avatar*
     
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  2. Kevin Smith

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    Your dog is definitely mixed. Mismarked labs will have a white spot on its chest or toes. The chest and toes Are more common, but it will just be a small spot here and there....not complete foot , chest, legs and eyebrow.....
     
  3. Edp

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    Firstly she is gorgeous, I would love to have a dog like that. She is definitely mixed with something despite what your paperwork says. Labs can have the odd white bit on its chest but not extensive marking like she has. I would either just enjoy her as she sounds fabulous or get a DNA profile out of curiosity.
     
  4. Chewies_mum

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    Your pup is very cute, and obviously rather smart! As others have said, mismarks in Labs tend to be a white spot rather than tricolour markings, like my boy has on his chest:
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    You are obviously enjoying your dog, so ultimately it doesn't really matter, though I would understand if you were annoyed at the breeder! :)
     
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  5. Lucius Maximus

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    Yes, definatley a mix, but she looks so much like a lab that a lot of people would be mistaken that she is, as others have said mismarked labs have a bit of white on the feet or chest (like the st johns water dog, their ancestors) but never markings like that. If I were to have a guess she looks part doberman with the facial markings, but who knows? Maybe she is 100% lab and a dna test would be a good idea if your really concerned, but she's a gorgeous dog all the same! My boy was a "fox red" advertised by the breeder (not kc though) and when we bought him the papers say yellow, and the vets have put gold. Turns out hes really all three colours in one, a red head and tip of tail and back, gold body and yellow/white on the toes and belly. Some people ask me if he's a labrador x golden retriever, I tell them no, he's a labrador, but I really dont know even if he has papers doesnt mean he's 100% lab either.

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  6. mandyb

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    Yes there are mismarked labs. I have personally seen a yellow with black splotches on it's head and body the owner also having it's pure black littermate.
    Here is just one link, google and there are several more. http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/mismarks.html
     
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  7. Aisling Labs

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    Get the DNA test done; it is not expensive and then you will know for sure. (And if you find that your dog is not pure Labrador, then notify the AKC that the Breeder has registered a non-pure bred litter.)

    It is quite likely that the Dam got with another boy and that the litter is out of two different Sires. The head being like the Sire you were shown likely came from the Dam's background IF this is the case. The Labrador genes are so strong that most mixed breed puppies from a pure Labrador Dam will look almost like they were also pure bred.
     
  8. Claire Rodkiss

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    Bruno is pure lab with a white strip on his chest but nothing else. The breeder was worried we wouldn’t want him and explained that the research she had done suggested it was some kind of throwback gene from their ancestors. Personally, I don’t care because he’s my boy!
     
  9. 5labs

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    Your breeder and his papers are correct.
    Labradors are black, chocolate or yellow.
    Yellow covers all shades from almost white to dark red. So your papers will say "yellow" for a fox red lab.
    The vets calling him "gold" is a perception of colour and a commonly used term used for yellow labradors but not technicaly correct.
     
  10. Kami Kern

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    Super uncommon but yes purebred labs can be marked this way! I'm super jealous I've always wanted to have one lol! Theres also a brindle mismark and others. I'm on a Facebook group with a few experts on this. It is due to a genetic thing but I cant say what it is because it's been a while since I was on the thread about it. Even though it's awesome looking I wouldnt recommend breeding her/him. But if you know of any more mismarks out of that litter let me know haha!
     
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  12. Amraann

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    Hello! Yes your puppy can be a purebred! I would find another vet if they are not familiar with a Black and Tan or mismarked lab. Many of you saying that the puppy is definately a mix are mistaken. I have a black and tan lab. I know for a fact that he is a purebred lab because the people that own his parents are my neighbors and I would have seen if another dog was around. Also if another dog got to the mother than more than one or two puppies out of the litter will have odd colorings. In my puppies case he is the only one out of 12 colored like this. One other was black like the mom and the rest were chocolate like the dad. It is very rare but absolutely possible.
     
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  13. MegColorado

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    She looks a lot like my dog who is full black and tan lab by DNA testing. There are also brindle and mosaic and several other kinds, they are rare and it's a recessive gene that both parents must carry and can go unexpressed for generations before we see one like ours! Google 'mismarked Labrador retreiver'
     
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    I also have a mismarked lab! Her mom was chocolate and father yellow, she was the only one with a spot on her.
     
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    This is her mama and siblings!
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    She's beautiful! :)
     
  17. Jessica Jarrard

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    I have a week old litter both parents are purebred with papers. Dad is black mom is classic yellow I have some yellow babies with black on them.
     

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