Neutering boy lab

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  1. SwampDonkey

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    :eatingsheep:I know they are they live under bridges and frighten billy goat?
     
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    No, not just you. I often quietly google Australian these days. I called a small child a 'bub' the other day (picked that up from Emily and Rachael, and thought it cool). The mother looked very surprised.
     
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    That is indeed the photo @JulieT :idea:
     
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    I can't believe I went through such turmoil when Snowie was six months old deciding whether to send him for the snip or not. The biggest issue at the time was that he was no longer allowed at doggie daycare with his balls intact. And I was surprised what feelings it evoked, because my husband and I have decided not to have children and yet, having to decide whether to neuter Snowie or not made me doubt our decision. Anyway, I am so pleased we didn't neuter him. He won't be using his balls for reproduction, but I am pretty sure they have contributed to his strength and muscle mass, and also to his very confident and steady nature. And what with his epilepsy, allergies, and bulging disc, I am pleased we didn't mess with his hormones making these problems possibly more difficult to deal with.
     
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    I am sorry, couldn't get the quotes right! I was replying to the quote 'that more neutered dogs got prostate cancer than uneutured ones'.
     
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    "BUT said:
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    Where did you get that information? It is the other way around, prostate cancer is more common in the entire dog. In the human male prostate cancer is initially treated with female hormones to reduce the testosterone and in a few cases the man has had to be castrated."


    "I am sorry, couldn't get the quotes right! I was replying to the quote 'that more neutered dogs got prostate cancer than uneutured ones'."

    Well I can't find the quote above made by BUT and I can't find @Stacia reply to that quote but here is another one from the Sanborn article. Ms Sanborn does quote two sources, you'll have to check her article and then go search them out to check further. She does say earlier studies were inconclusive or opposite so perhaps BUT found earlier ones.

    From, http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf

    "There have been several conflicting epidemiological studies over the years that found either an increased risk or a decreased risk of prostate cancer in neutered dogs. These studies did not utilize control populations, rendering these results at best difficult to interpret. This may partially explain the conflicting results.

    More recently, two retrospective studies were conducted that did utilize control populations. One of these studies involved a dog population in Europe5 and the other involved a dog population in America6 . Both studies found that neutered male dogs have a four times higher risk of prostate cancer than intact dogs.

    Based on their results, the researchers suggest a cause-and-effect relationship: “this suggests that castration does not initiate the development of prostatic carcinoma in the dog, but does favor tumor progression”5 and also “Our study found that most canine prostate cancers are of ductal/urothelial origin….The relatively low incidence of prostate cancer in intact dogs may suggest that testicular hormones are in fact protective against ductal/urothelial prostatic carcinoma."

     
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    ye will see how he gets on hes still humping me and tilly though lol
     
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    @Snowshoe, thank you for the link but I am not convinced. We need to read lots of findings from good sources and then make a valued judgement. I wrote this much earlier but have just found it in pale writing!!!
     
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    Oh dear :wasntme:

    Just move him if he's humping. Play an alternative game with him and see if you can distract him :)
     
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    There's an English lady in my mother's group and I've found myself translating between English and Australian for the other ladies :D. I haven't yet mentioned that I'm bilingual due to a Labrador Forum :D:D
     
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