Not a good morning.

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  1. Oberon

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    Yeah, have to say that the Rotties I meet are, as a general rule, very nice, easy going dogs.
     
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    These two rotties are very good as a rule. They are well behaved, cause less trouble than my two ::) and are very good with people they love attention. One of the reasons my friend is so careful is be ause of the stereotype of the dog. She knows her dogs are likely to get the blame whatever because they are rotweillers. :-\

    I couldn't exactly tell you what my two did when it was all going on but when it had finished they were just stood nicely next to me. They seemed oblivious to what had happened. ::). For once their behaviour was perfect. ;)

    We will see what today brings but I don't have much hope for the poor little JRT. :(
     
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    I met my friend and the rotties for our walk. No sign next door of people or dog.

    My friend hardly slept for worrying. She immediately went out yesterday afternoon and bought muzzles for her dogs. While I think this is a very sensible thing to do as she can't trust them anymore with very small dogs it's not entirely fair. Yesterday was due to a set of circumstances that could easily have been different if the JRT owner had been more responsible.

    I think it shows though how much care, thought and consideration she puts into looking after not only her dogs but others as well. A lot more than some people. ::)
     
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    No dog or people should be subject to stereotypes. I hope your friend doesn't blame herself, because she was not a fault. Hopefully she'll be able to gain her confidence back so she doesn't feel the muzzle is nessecary :(
     
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    Your poor friend.

    The muzzles will protect her dogs as much as anything. I think it is a sensible move, given that it's impossible to prevent other dogs running up......
     
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    Ah, Jen, I really feel for your friend.

    I don't think muzzles are a bad idea. In an ideal world, people would take care of their dogs and watch their behaviour. But it's not an ideal world. From walking Charlie in a busy area, I'd say at least 90% of people round my way think it's acceptable and unremarkable for their dogs to run over to other on lead dogs, and are surprised when I ask them to call their dog or I return it to them. That's just the way it is.
     
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    I agree it is a shame not all people are considerate to others with their dogs and a muzzle is the sensible option.

    Thankfully I think I've managed to dissuade her from getting PRONG collars !!!! I pointed out a muzzle was enough protection. I think she was looking those up at about 3am this morning so probably wasn't thinking straight. :eek:
     
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    Ah I bet she's had a dreadful night poor thing and it wasn't her fault x
    The muzzles will protect her and her dogs ,she's had a big confidence knock ...oh this whole story is just awful and so unnecessary.I'm glad she's not hiding at home and got out with you.This will blow over as things do but I really feel for your friend.Im still hoping the JRT is ok :-\
     
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    Sorry Jen, I have just been catching up. What an absolutely horrific thing to witness, I really hope you and your friend are OK today. How is the JR :'( :'(? poor little chap, it's a shame his owners haven't taken more care with him and this whole incident would have been avoided.

    I strongly believe it doesn't matter what breed of dog you own you can never 100% trust any dog.

    xxxxx
     
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    I do feel for your friend, totally not her fault and very unnecessary. I do hope there is not any unpleasant fallout from the JTR owner, it's always easier to blame someone else than to admit you might have done something wrong. I agree the muzzles are a good idea, it will help her to have stress free walks, which might not be the case otherwise.
     
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    Still no news on the JRT but I haven't seen it about. :(

    I don't think my neighbours blame my friend or her dogs they are very matter of fact about such thing. It's when word starts to spread the story could alter. :-\

    Thank you all very much for your support it's really kind and really appreciated. :)
     
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    I'm sure your friend greatly appreciates your advice and support too.
     
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    Angela and her glass half full hopes the JRT is ok and the owners have learned a lesson and are keeping the little one close ;) ....it could be the case ;D
     
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    Unfortunately RIP JRT :(

    I now have a dilemma do I tell my friend and possibly upset her again or just not mention it ? ???

    The worry I have not mentioning it is if we see my neighbour as we pass she might ask about the dog !!! It's difficult and I'm now wondering what there opinion on what happened is. I'm confident the rotties didn't kill the JRT. I'm sure it didn't help but from what they said I don't think it had long left. I think a younger fitter dog even that small wouldve been ok. Our neighbour told my cousin about the dog being dead and that the rotties are very powerful animals and she shouldn't be walking them !!!!! I really don't want to be in the middle of a conversation between my neighbour and my friend about who was to blame !!!!! :-\.
     
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    I would guess that your friend will likely ask about the JTR, she's got to be wondering about it. Until you know for sure what the cause of death was, it's hard to say if the Rotties were the cause, but, honestly, from what you described, the JTR was definitely in distress afterwards so the whole thing had to have contributed.
    Anyhow, you might not be able to avoid being in the middle of it all, but I guess if you can just provide massive sympathy hopefully you can avoid having to make a stand one way or another. :-\
     
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    Oh dear, how sad. :'(
     
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    I'm quite good at tea and sympathy and I can be diplomatic when the need arises but so awkward. :-\
     
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    Ah, Jen, I can see this is really tricky. The only thing you can do is try to think what your friend would want you to do, in terms of telling her information. I'd say best she hears news from you than from someone less sympathetic.

    The thing is, those Rotties had that small dog in their jaws. Whatever the surrounding circumstances, that's the thing. :'( Your friend has to deal with that, and the implications. You can support her with this, without trying to hide the fact it's a big problem (indeed, to do so might not do her any favours). Do you think she should get some professional advice? It might help her to take action aimed at it never happening again. That's a positive direction?
     
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    Do you think you have a role here, a kind of bridge between your friend and your neighbour?
    If you are happy to chat to your neighbour, but also support your friend and still walk with her Rotties (with or without muzzles :-\ ) then would this be advantageous to calm the waters before they really show any turbulence?
    Very sad all round :(
    Just thinking aloud really....
     
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    Thank you both for your very good advice. :)

    I think I might sound out the neighbours Jac and see what their feelings are. That's agood idea.

    Your right Julie it will be better if she hears it from me and I shall tactfully discuss different options on managing such powerful dogs trying not to make them sound like savage beasts. :-\
     

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