We have a teenager in the house! If no other dogs are around Bob sticks to me like glue... lovely heel walking never further than about 10m from where I am walking. BUT if he sees any other dogs - he's off! Amazon are out of stock on Pippa's Total Recall so going to see if I can pick up a used or second hand copy from somewhere. It's so upsetting, he was doing really well before. Today he just completely disappeared for ages.. it was quite stressful! Any tips in the meantime until Pippa's book arrives?! Thank you lovely people! Lou x
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! Good luck. So been there... It's actually easier to train a) a stop b) not to start the mad run off to the other dog in the first place than it is to recall a dog who is committed to getting to another dog, heading at speed away from you. And a long line is your friend, but only a training aid if you use it for a long time. It can stop self rewarding while you get other things in place though.
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! [quote author=JulieT link=topic=9390.msg134905#msg134905 date=1420476543] Good luck. So been there... It's actually easier to train a) a stop b) not to start the mad run off to the other dog in the first place than it is to recall a dog who is committed to getting to another dog, heading at speed away from you. And a long line is your friend, but only a training aid if you use it for a long time. It can stop self rewarding while you get other things in place though. [/quote] Hi Julie please excuse my ignorance... are you talking about a long lead? One of those extendable ones? Should we use that? Lou x
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! My experience with a dog that was a complete and utter nightmare for running to other dogs is recall is the third thing to use. First, concentrate on training the dog to not leave and leg it to another dog in the first place. Second use your stop to halt the dog from going any further if it starts heading towards another dog. Third, your dog has left you and you want it to come back after it's reached the other dog...then you try your recall - choosing your moment carefully though. I don't mean an extendable lead (although I think they have their uses and keeping a teenage dog on a lead more often while you train is a good idea). A long line like this: - this one is 30m. You need your dog on a harness to use these. Tie knots in the end, make sure the dog never gets the line round his legs, and if he takes off towards another dog, use it to stop him from getting there and being rewarded with a huge fun play, so reinforcing legging it to another dog. The thing is, the dog knows it is wearing the line, so it doesn't itself train it not to leg it. But it does stop the dog getting the reward. They are not straightforward to use, best used in a flat field or beach. And you have to be really careful you do not stop a dog travelling at speed unless there is a clear line between you and the dog (for that reason, I usually hold the end of the line to make sure it is clear of the dog's legs but use my boot to stop a dog, otherwise it hurts your hands). Don't bother trying this in a busy park! I still use one of these when I train in an advanced class of students, and it would be hugely embarrassing for my dog to disturb other dogs. And he is particularly likely to run over to other dogs hunting. It does not solve the problem in itself, it stops it getting worse while you train a stop, or the dog to stay with you (and also your recall if the dog does leg it).
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! good luck! We've just had our two go through this, they are still not 100% back to perfect but they're doing great! My tip is chicken. or other delicious things. If you whistle train, out on a quiet walk or in your garden with no distractions, blow your recall signal once and only once, and hope your dog comes. If they don't, run in the other direction and squalk, chirp, yell whatever it takes to get them running to you. And when they come, feed them their delicious snack! Then say "wait" until you are ready to release them, and then do. Repeat many times, and out on walks gradually increase the distractions, and occasionally don't give the great treat, give lesser treats. This is what worked for us. Have fun! I think Julie T's got it right though, better to stop then pelting off first!
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! Good news! Total Recall is back in and is being delivered this week! Thanks for all your help and advice! Lou x
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! milly runs at a gallop as soon as i let her off lead she has started to run further away now and i can not see her in the woods i can not hide or walk the other way as she is so far away i dont think it would do any good i have a long line but only walk in woods so not easy to use that today let her off lead and had sausages for treats but she still did not stay close when i call her she will come back but not always instantly
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! [quote author=JulieT link=topic=9390.msg134905#msg134905 date=1420476543] Good luck. So been there... It's actually easier to train a) a stop [/quote] Oh my goodness, I misread this!!! I thought Julie had written 'It's actually easier to stop a train...'
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! Well, beach + tennis ball chucker + other dog + Charlie - and I'd take my chances with a train! ;D ;D ;D
Re: Oh heck we've lost our recall! i have now got a whistle and will try it tomorrow i usually feed milly early so might not feed her before we go out i used it tonight to call her to her food bowl she alredy waits in the livng room while i get her food ready and i call her so i used the whistle does this sound ok or should i do anything else to get recall to the whistle
