He Bret, the biting does stop but you can’t avoid a biting phase. I totally get that it’s a very difficult and unpleasant behaviour to deal with, my pup was like it for a few months and I didn’t quite think the level of her biting and ripping of clothes was normal at one point. You are right to hate the idea of a shock collar, they are an animal welfare issue and should never ever be used. They are illegal here in the uk. Stick with Pippa’s advice and it will eventually stop. It’s so difficult being a young animal learning how to behave in a human environment yet you certainly don’t need force to help them learn this. Puppies are hard work and the biting is upsetting and painful and unacceptable I fully understand but harming you pup isn’t the way to go. It will get better, if we are consistent, which is the challenge, it will stop. All the best and hang in there, so many of us on here understand what you are going through and have come out the other side of it.