It dawned on me whilst David and I were walking Hattie & Charlie this afternoon with Hattie off lead and Charlie on lead. Hattie spotted a rabbit and I recalled her instantly to the whistle, now as Charlie was on lead is that a failed whistle for him because he couldn't react? If this is a silly question I apologise :-[ x
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 Not a silly question at all. Got me thinking.... What might work in that situation is to shuffle backwards a bit so the on-lead dog had to move into the recall position in front. You could practice these types of on-lead recalls with Charlie in advance so he knows what you're up to. Wouldn't make any difference to Hattie. On the few occasions that I've walked two dogs together, I've found they develop a healthy competition for the treats, and I've operated an 'everyone sits in front or no one gets a treat' policy which they soon got the hang of (one treat in each hand, delivered simultaneously). Of course, that hasn't been with dogs who live together, which might well be different as they've already worked out the pecking order.
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 Thanks Kath, that's a good idea about the shuffling backwards then they could both sit and receive the treat which is what I insist on anyway . We did some lovely recalls at the end of our walk today in the paddock, Hattie & Charlie sat to the stop whistle I walked a good 40 ish meters whistled them in to a lovely sit infront of me for dried sprats, we got 3 of these in and Charlie was focused for a change : x
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 Wow! How amazing is that, with all that's been before?! Must feel surreal, but amazing
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 [quote author=Merla link=topic=7380.msg102525#msg102525 date=1408310020] Wow! How amazing is that, with all that's been before?! Must feel surreal, but amazing [/quote] Not bad Kath, David was waiting with them and it was in a paddock, but during our walk I walked round a corner Charlie with David whistled him in and he came bombing round the corner, but the second one he did ignore in favour of jumping through a hedge into a field , so still very much rough with the smooth but better than he was most definitely. Still a long way to go though :
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 Ok, ignorant question from the US. What are sprats? And am I correct in thinking a hoolie is when the dogs just tears around like a maniac? And the "garden" is your back yard? It's all English, but my oh my, the differences! ;D
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 [quote author=npcarpenter link=topic=7380.msg102710#msg102710 date=1408372342] And the "garden" is your back yard? [/quote] ;D ;D ;D In the UK, a "yard" is an enclosed space, with a paved or concrete floor - where you would keep the rubbish bins. Or if big, animals - a stable yard for example. Yes, a garden is the outside space around the house. If we mean a specific planted area in that garden, we'd say "the vegetable garden", "the flower beds", "the shrubbery" and so on. When I was a kid, I felt sorry for all those people in the US who didn't have any gardens, only yards! ;D ;D ;D
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 ;D ;D ;D That's fine- my sister married a guy from Michigan so we're used to the blank looks that language differences can cause! Sprats are tiny little fish, a couple of inches long. We can get them either frozen, for defrosting at home, or dried. Dogs go mad for them, they're super-smelly and apparently delicious! They are my secret weapon for training emergencies or very difficult situations, and lots of other people's too!! You're right with 'hoolie' - I think it's a 'labrador forum special' to apply it to dogs but uk people would tend to know what you mean- it's an Irish term for a really good party or celebration, as well as (rather confusingly) a strong wind! (eg It's blowing a hoolie out there!) I love languages - so fascinating!!
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 Yes, languages are pretty fun to explore. Julie, when I was younger and read references about being "in the garden" in various books set in the UK, I always wondered if people really were wandering around amidst the flowers?? I wondered, why not play in their yards?? I can see the reference to yards as being a paved area, too, though. "Prison yard" comes to mind (why, I don't know!) or "school yard". I think we in the US would assume "yard" meant a grassy yard around a home if there weren't other qualifiers. As for "hoolie", I thought it maybe came from "hooligan"!
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 [quote author=npcarpenter link=topic=7380.msg103667#msg103667 date=1408644305] As for "hoolie", I thought it maybe came from "hooligan"! [/quote] Probably ;D
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 Hmm hmm this isn't helping my recalling 2 dogs ;D ;D A hoolie is an Irish term for a really good party and the Irish sure know how to party x
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 They learn the particular rhythm and length of your whistle. You'll see this if you ever go to a group gun dog session. New dogs get all excited initially at the sound of all the whistles but then they learn to differentiate.
Re: Recalling 2 Dogs - Question 2 I thought an Irish party is a hooley, and a hoolie is "like a storm". But I've probably imagined that! [quote author=GreenBull link=topic=7380.msg103852#msg103852 date=1408716118] They learn the particular rhythm and length of your whistle. You'll see this if you ever go to a group gun dog session. New dogs get all excited initially at the sound of all the whistles but then they learn to differentiate. [/quote] That happens in a group of clicker trainers too. Dogs new to being clicker trained in a group react to all the clickers, but then realise only one applies to them. Charlie, having been clicker trained at puppy school had no problems with other clickers. He sat to every stop whistle he heard though! ;D ;D ;D (Apart from mine when I wanted him to do so of course : ). Since Helen is blowing the same recall whistle for both dogs, it is a recall for both though.
