URGENT! Puppy Found Critical Hip Displasia, Only Both Joints are Totally Out of Socket! please help

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  1. JulieT

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    Make sure she exercises only in line with advice - it's important to start very slowly and carefully and build it up to make sure her muscles develop and the amount of exercise she does is comfortable for her.
     
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    I have one more issue,
    Walking is major,
    She eat everything while walking on road,
    And I always need to force her, which is bad for her bones, what is good way to walk her like mature good dog, she do not walk with me..
     
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    When you say you have to force her, do you mean to get her to stop eating things, pulling, or to walk forwards at all?
     
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    Yea, I mean I need to pull to stop eating.
     
  6. JulieT

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    Ok, so what you need to do it train your dog to turn towards you when you make a noise. Like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJSGda3b3wA

    Then when you've done that loads, and she always turns towards you when you make your noise, you can have her on a lead (in the house at first) and put a biscuit on the floor, and get her to turn towards you when you make your noise (give her something better than the biscuit at first). Stop her getting to the biscuit (gently with the lead at first) until she can do it ok.

    Then you can make the thing on the floor more exciting than a biscuit, and gradually work up so she can turn towards you when there is something really exciting on the floor. Then try in your yard, then outside your front door...and eventually, out on walks when she goes to eat something, you'll be able to make your noise and she'll turn away from it.
     
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    Hi there! Glad to see you are getting some good advice from everyone and that you are feeling a little better about it all. I am wondering about this mention of rickets from the vet. Is he saying that this what has caused your pup's problem? It is certainly very important that your dog is getting the best nutrition you can afford for her optimal health. Is this something your vet discussed with you?
     
  8. honey148

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    wow extremely useful Guide, thanks for that.. i will try these tips
     
  9. honey148

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    thanks for reply,
    he said HD is caused by Rickets, which is causing connectivity issue, due to Calcium Defiency which became more danger when you have Slippery floor and stairs,
    he told me give balanced diet, he said give her Goat Leg Bone which have high Phosphorus,Glucosamine(may be im wrong in spelling), will increase Muscles, he also said she is in Growth Stage, Decreasing her Diet will become worse, even more when she have week bones and calcium Defiency, he said Overdiet is always Bad on even healthy DOG too,he also discussed her diet,
     
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    Rickets is caused by a Vitamin D deficiency (not a calcium deficiency). Maybe the vet meant she had Rickets and also a calcium deficiency.... Personally I'd also think that her hips are bad partly because she inherited bad hips from her parents or grandparents.

    At any rate, it doesn't really matter what caused it.... The important thing is that now you can feed her the right diet, keep her from running on the stairs or slippery floors, teach her to walk nicely on the lead and give her pain medication when she needs it :)

    As your vet said, a good diet is important and not over-feeding her is also really important. Goat is a good meat for dogs (sometimes I feed my dog goat), but see if you can find the softer bones like rib bones (with meat on) or the neck (which you can cut up into thick slices). These kinds of bones are not as hard as leg bones and won't wear out her teeth.
     
  11. honey148

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    noted, thanks again.
    sir, i have one strange question,
    its been 5 days Vet is giving 3 injections everyday, he will give it 7 days(2 days left) for Rickets.
    my puppy eat wrong thing she got loose motions, now she is fine,
    wanted to know is Course treatment given by Vet will effected or we need to start from further again?
    is injection have done its Job while she was Sick?
    i was asking because it was Ricket medical Course, if it got interrupt then shall we start again?
    (sorry for my week english)
     
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    Mandeep, you will need to ask your vet about that. But I would guess that if it was an injection it would not matter if she had loose motions or vomited, because the medication has not gone into her stomach like a pill. It went into her muscles or bloodstream because it was an injection. Usually loose motions or vomiting are only a problem with medications that have been given into the mouth. But if you are unsure maybe it is best just to call the vet to check.
     
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    What a lot for you and your puppy to cope with, I really feel for you both. This forum is brilliant for getting advice, reassurance and support. I hope that with the support of your vet that you have many happy years ahead of you with your puppy.
     
  14. honey148

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    wow , You guys are genius, thanks for that info, really helpful..

    yea, this is the first forum, where i got Holy Support, Really Best forum, god bless them.

    thanks to all,
    i will update if i got Good news with my Puppy regarding this issue..
    Cya.
     
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    Hey @mandeep148 I thought I would reply to your email here so other people could see if they are looking for information.

    Lilly is now 5 and a half years old.
    She was diagnosed with severe dysplasia in both hips just before she was a year old.
    We had restricted her exercise up to then on the advice of our vet, but the specialist said we needed to gradually build up her exercise from 5mins twice a day on led to 60mins twice a day on lead (that was a lot for us, but we did it)

    To my knowledge Lilly has no lack of vitamins.
    We were advised to feed good food, and increase her Omega-3 Fish Oils in her diet. We started giving her a supplement capsule. We were told she could have twice the dose of a human adult - so we bought Omega-3 Fish Oil capsules from the pharmacy and gave her one with breakfast and one with tea (the usual dose for humans was one a day). She was also taking an anti-inflammatory tablet and we have continued with that long term even though she doesn't now limp. That was our choice. We would rather make sure she has no pain because dogs are really good at hiding pain. We get this from our vet (we use Prexicox which contains Firocoxib and is quite expensive, but she was sick and vomited blood on another one so the vet wanted to be safe).

    Lilly runs and chases and rarely has a limp. She behaves normally to my assessment.
    She sometimes gets a bit grumpy if she is relaxed on her bed and we come and say hello to her - or if another dog does! We are not too sure if this is because when she is relaxed and be nudge her she is more likely to be sore. But she runs around with other dogs and chases them and barges into them with no pain to be seen.
    This is a short video of Lilly at the beach last year with my daughter

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    [​IMG]20150602_145253.mp4 by drjs_5, on Flickr
     
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    @drjs@5 Thank you for your lovely post. When our pups are diagnosed with dysplasia we are overcome with feelings of despair for what they can't/shouldn't do and how restricted their lives will be, rather than with management they can run, play and enjoy life, and I do appreciate that the severity of the dysplasia can play apart in what they can or can't do. Lilly certainly looks to be enjoying life :)
     
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    Ah yes, Lilly has a fantastic zest for (wild) life.
    No stopping her. She is very well adjusted for the severity of her disease. I guess that surgery may be necessary at some time in her life, but not thought to be pressing.
    I feel for all you guys going through it.
     
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    That was a lovely post to read Jacqui , and most encouraging for others embarking on this journey of management , thank you so much for sharing it x
     
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    Thanks for everyone,
    I saw lillys video, shes so proud member,
    Wish her great and long life,
    So shes now 5 years old,
    The xray you shown me you said you taken at when she was year old,
    So have you taken latest xray?
    I think shes fine now.
    Btw,
    I wanted to know,
    Should i give her joint support medicine in my case?
    Like glycoflex,etc.
    I stopped it after giving it for 4 months, wheni saw latest xray, (shown in this thread)
    According to her history,
    When she was 5 months old, her joint wasnt well rounded but was in socket,
    After 5 months, she got inverse effect, hip got more worse, joint got out,
    I stopped giving her that supplement,
    After latest visit at other vet,
    He said she have rickets and calcium deficiency,
    Keep giving calcium and d3

    Im just getting fear about abnormal growth of joints,
    Because out of socket joints,
    They will try to develop to get contact with socket,
    To maintain and stop bad development,
    Yes its true she have rickets,
    Because her parents are good + i gave slippey susface,
    When she was 5 months old, her legs were extremely worse cow hock, and legs werent straight,
    Her is pic of then her standing and xray hip,
    (4-5 months old)

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    on Novmeber 2015 picture (3.5 months later)
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    XRAY on Nov
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    this is her YESTERDAY Pic

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    you can see her legs are now getting straight time by time, and her muscles are too weak,
    may be that is the reason weak muscles are not allowing to get into socket?

    she is fully active and happy at that time, no bunny hope no pain.
    (sorry for these images, werent meant to spam, i thought these images are becoming URL)
    not to spam, but i m updating this thread too, discussing and briefing.
     
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  20. Karen

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    Mandeep, your concern is obvious, I am so sorry you are having this issue with your girl. Do you mean that she is fully active and with no pain right now? If so, then that is good and I am guessing your best bet is to slowly build up her exercise and strength so that her muscles can compensate for her poorly formed hips.
     

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