vacine or not.has anyone heard of a problem with lepto vacine,a,friend rang to say it is very dangerous, I am expecting a pup and I am quite worried.
Definitely vaccine. Some people have said that Lepto 4 has caused problems, but I do not know the facts. Lepto 2 is safe. I have had 8 dogs over the years since 1971, all have been vaccinated and non had any problems. I would suggest you discuss your concerns with your vet.
Definitely go with your vet’s advice on vaccinations. The lepto vaccine is very safe: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/leptospira-vaccination-in-dogs I find it annoying when people (I don’t mean you ) stir up anti-vaccine / medication feeling -I think they have an unrealistic idea of what ‘natural’ remedies can accomplish and are sadly unknowledgable about how awful some preventable illnesses are.
Also your breeder will notmally have arranged fir furst vaccination together eith microchipping before you collect the puppy. You will need to prove that your puppy is fully vaccinated to attend any puppy or dog training classes, for them to go into kennels while you ho on holiday etc. There are always stories of someone knows someone's dog that was ill, hospitalised, died after receiveing medication/vaccination and unfortunately some dogs do have reactions to medications, just as us humans have reactions to medications; however the numbers reported are extremely small in comparison to the number of vaccines etc. administered in a year. The vaccines your puppy receives protect him/her from diseases which are potentially fatal.
My VEt recommends against the Lepto vaccination. Now this was when Oban was young but he's 10 now and still not getting it. It had many severe and bad side effects. My VEt says an observant owner will see the signs of Lepto, if their dog gets in, in time to fix it then, it's easily remedied. I do hear the new Lepto vaccine is not as bad but we are still not getting it. Please google this up, it's very controversial. So is Lymes vaccination, which at Vet recommendation we don't get either. I do take what comes from the site below with a grain of salt but in this case I recognize the names of the experts quoted (heck Dr. Dodds went to my University, ok, I wasn't in the VEt programme) so I read with more acceptance. http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/leptospirosis-vaccine-side-effects/
I wanted to add this quote because it differs greatly from a comment above. "Leptospira vaccines for dogs are now available in two forms: The original two-way vaccines contained only the L. canicola and L. icterohaemorrhagiae serovars; The more recent four-way vaccines also contain L. grippotyphosa and L. pomona. The four-way vaccine is the recommended choice because L. canicola and L. icterohaemorrhagieae infections appear to be in decline, while L. grippotyphosa is on the rise. Two additional serovars now identified as causing infection, L. bratislava and L. automnalis, are not included in current vaccines." The two way vaccine is the older one which may have caused more problems. The four way is the newer one. ONe thing to find out is which types of Lepto you are likely to encounter. From the article linked above.
This is from https://www.gov.uk/government/news/leptospira-vaccination-in-dogs ‘Based on the most recent periodic safety update report data received for each product, the incidence of adverse animal reactions for all L2 vaccine products combined is 0.015%; for L4 vaccine products this figure is 0.069%. In other words, the VMD has received fewer than 2 adverse reactions for L2, and fewer than 7 for L4, for every 10,000 doses sold. This includes every suspected adverse event reported, even cases that were considered unclassifiable or were later found to be unrelated to the vaccine.’
The L4 vaccination is essential for my dog. My vet recommends it. We live in a rural setting, near farms. There are lots of rats in the country, who constantly pass urine. I want my dog to have the best protection.
I used to be a veterinary nurse and saw the most beautiful and young Dalmatian dog die from Lepto and have to disagree with your vet @Snowshoe who says it is easily recognised and cured, in some cases perhaps but not all. I also had a friend who died from the human equivalent.
Many owners aren't even aware that their dogs are overweight when the evidence is right in front of them. I would classify myself as an 'observant' owner but I couldn't tell you the signs to look for in a dog that might have contracted lepto. I think I'll take my chances in the 2 in 10,000 or 7 in 10,000 who might suffer some sort of reaction to the vaccine
I would always be guided by the vet. They know your local area and the prevalence of different diseases. Ours are all vaccinated fully, including Lepto, at 6, 12 and 16 weeks. No way would it be otherwise. Guide Dogs raise 1,400 pups a year and precisely none are lost to vaccines. Goodness knows how many would be lost to parvo etc. If they were not fully vaccinated.
